i'm 15, and i'm an unbaptized publisher... so i've been what you call "lurking" here for the past few weeks and i have some questions.
i hear you guys constantly mentioning ttatt so where can i go to learn more about this (links please)?
also i've already told my mom that i don't believe in the governing body and she is making me do even more!
Welcome to you, Demokan.
Use the search feature on JWN and learn about the topics you want to learn about.
Www.jwfacts.com is indeed a life saver as are many others.
You tube has fabulous videos about ttatt. Just search Jehovah 's Witnesses.
Check in frequently and soon you will know everything you need to know.
i figured he was going to arrange the committee and try to get me kicked out after the whole "big pile of books" labelled "take this shit".. well his call made me realize that more and more people ... elders included no longer take this religion seriously.
after he told me he heard what happened he actually laughed and said i would never expect that.
he then told me that it is apparent that i no longer want to be connected to the organization.
I think this elder invited you on this guys day out trip just to lower your defenses, get you to a neutral place so he can try to guilt you into coming back. I would make friends elsewhere, if I were you.
I quit cold turkey and everyone knows I am an apostate, nothing was done to me. I get no phone calls or visits and am shunned and ignored by 80% of the dubs that I run into. It has been almost three years of utter bliss. I will never give the elders the authority over me to df me or accept my letter of disassociation. This is a cult and no respect is deserved.
the clever ploy that get the rank and file to be corporation drones, sacrificeing everything, higher education, enjoyment of sports, material goods, family members who are disfellowshipped, homes, even their own lives.. the governing body are skilled at puting words in their corporation's sock puppet mouth, in effect dictate what jehovah thinks and feels; be it sadness over children's choice of toys or how he gets all hurt when deaf people masturbate, they got jehovah thinking, feeling, and saying pretty much what ever they need him to to keep the rank and file in servitude and gratefulness to the corporation..
They know how to play the game and play it well, indeed.
this is the exchange of text messages i had with my super spiritual brother.
it is sad... it is pathetic... it has helped me realize that i have no connection to these people anymore.
i feel free today.
I previous poster did bring up an interesting aspect of this situation. Your parents are going to still donate to the Watchtower Society, spend their recourses on gasoline, service and meeting clothes, lunches for CO's, DO's, Pioneer meetings, etc. If you help them out you are seeing to it that more money flows to the evil cult...just a thought you may want to consider.
letter from a close family member... need help responding.... what a powerful illustration of the affect that our choice of friends can have on us, especially if we leave jehovah after being 'raised' by him from infancy!.
pack of wolvesthere was a farmer who raised sheep and had trouble with wolves stealing his sheep.
he loved his sheep and didn't want to lose even one of them.
Good one, Winston and Pistoff.
letter from a close family member... need help responding.... what a powerful illustration of the affect that our choice of friends can have on us, especially if we leave jehovah after being 'raised' by him from infancy!.
pack of wolvesthere was a farmer who raised sheep and had trouble with wolves stealing his sheep.
he loved his sheep and didn't want to lose even one of them.
I heard versions of this same story back in the late 1950's and 60's.
It worked then and still does.
Bottom line: God is not going to destroy you because you do not belong to a religion that teaches falsehoods and practices cult like behavior.
yep.
jw's don't like to hear anything negative about the organization and this got me unfriended from a few of my jw friends.
this was the start of our enlightenment:.
Hmmm...don't have time to watch the video now but will come back later and have a look.
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Welcome to our two new friends, Chip & his wife, Dale.
this is the exchange of text messages i had with my super spiritual brother.
it is sad... it is pathetic... it has helped me realize that i have no connection to these people anymore.
i feel free today.
You know the more I think about this the more upset I get.
Your mom and dad felt it was totally OK to run up the charge card because after all Armageddon was coming before they would ever have to pay it off.
All the charges were to support kingdom interests and Jehovah would approve of this. They are victims like the rest of us but just dont realise it.
It is too late for them, at their age, what can they do, go back to work?
Again, nothing is going to happen to them if they don't pay the bills. There is no debtors prison or anything like that.
this is the exchange of text messages i had with my super spiritual brother.
it is sad... it is pathetic... it has helped me realize that i have no connection to these people anymore.
i feel free today.
If you give your father the money you are a much bigger, way more generous person that anyone I know.
Credit card debt is unsecured. There is nothing they can do to your parents but harrass them with telephone calls.
When they pass away, the credit card companies cannot go after you or your sweet, kind, thoughtful brother.
I wouldn't pay it.
Another solution is just to pay the minimun balance until they are gone. That will keep the creditors from hounding them.
They have to learn to do what the Bible says and not borrow money, count the cost, etc., etc.
