My husband is Evangelical Christian, I think is what its called. HA HA. I was very surprised to know that his beliefs are somewhat similar to my old beliefs. Basically all the good stuff without the guilt trip and control! He knows and uses Jehovah's name - which was a revelation in of itself to me since i was brought up - in the truth- to believe that no one but JWs use God's name. He wants us to go to a church together but I still haven't because everytime I think about it, i have this little voice that tells me i'd be committing Idolatry by stepping foot into another place of worship other than a KH. I want to go but i'm scared. i guess right now, i've kind of written off religion and don't like to talk about it because of the mental and emotional scars i have from being JW for so long. I do, eventually, want to get to that place where I can go to a christian church. i like to listen to sermons on my podcast like Marcos Witt who is a part of the Lakewood Church in Houston. I live in WA state but i enjoy listening to his sermons and listening to his songs so much. I also enjoy listening to other singers of christian music as well. when i listen to it, the songs bring tears to my eyes. i can't even describe why or how it happens. Its like i'm singing the words and then my eyes well up with joy and pride to know jehovah and his works. its moments like those that make me want to really delve back into having a spiritual life. apart from jw's of course. if i did go to a church it would have to be something like the evangelical or baptist religion, but for right now, i'm kind of like the others on this post that dont want to have anything to do with organized religion and just want to BE. to enjoy singing to my god and trying to live a good life that brings him joy and to be proud of me.
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After leaving Jw's did you go into another religion or serv. god ur own way?
by average joe ini am just curious if you guys left jw's and now worship in some other relgion or worship in your own way?
have you sworn off organized religion ?
if you have not sworn off organized religion then i wonder what relgion seems to be the right one for you guys?
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What's The Longest You've Been In A Relationship?
by minimus inand if you were dating someone "seriously", how long did that last?.
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i have only been in love once, and that was with my husband and we've been married for almost 6 years. we married when i was 21, he was 24. we aactually only dated for like a month before we got married. i think i was running away from the organ and all its poison and was a single mom and when we met it just felt right. it was very quick but we've grown so close and love each other very much. he's a blessing
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Some Thoughts on Self Esteem and Disfellowshipping
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my mother is one of those. i was disfellowshipped when i was 17 for the dreaded fornication. a child resulted from that so that heaped on the shame even more. she called me a whore and spread all the deatils surrounding the situation with all of her pioneer friends who, as you all know, LOVE to gossip in their car group clicks. she has told me that i'm dead to her and that i'm a walking corpse. that i don't love my husband or daughters because i dont make an effort for all of us to be in the "truth." even when we were living in the same household when i was disfellowshipped, she hardly spoke two words to me that year and all of her shunning and mal treatment has scarred me. and it continues to affect me and my self-esteem. i have been diagnosed clinically depressed and have attempted suicide a couple yrs back. i battle with feelings of worthlessness and anger which seems to be for no apparent reason when it happens but i know it all goes back to the org and how that has affected my life.
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Check this website out! Pretty pricey stuff for the JW
by Lynnie inhttp://chbook.stores.yahoo.net/2006items.html.
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who would actually buy that crap? those are some really stupid prices. Yeah I could see all those old pioneer hags vying for their share of that stuff. Whipping it out at meetings and assemblies just to have people go ask them what's that where'd you get it. YUCK
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Have You Ever Experienced Depression?
by minimus inmy mom does and has every ailment under the sun.. i know more people that are under meds for depression than not.. fortunately, i do not suffer from depression but i wonder how many do or have, especially if you were a witness..
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I have been diagnosed as clinically depressed but I refuse to take meds. My friends keep telling me that I should take them because it helps but I just don't like the idea of needing a pill to be happy. Maybe it's a mental thing from being a witness and the whole control concept. I just want to feel like I'm in control, not a pill. But I have started going to therapy and have been giving the pills some thought because it seems like more recently than ever, I'm always feeling down. Yest I just wanted to burst out crying and this frequently happens. I could be listening to a song or watching tv or doing anything really, and tears well up. Im lost as to where its coming from since I would like to think I'm over this whole jw drama. maybe not....
moe
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why are witnesses so ridiculous????
by mochamint22 inso it's been a while since i've posted on the site to hello everyone.
i just am so irritated by these fools that i have to tell you guys about this.
so my husband was on his way to the store and he stopped to pump gas and there were some witnesses doing street witnessing and this brother gets out and comes up to him (i was at home, this is my hubby telling me about this) this happens to be the po of the spanish hall my mother goes to.
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Niiiiice. I like that idea!
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why are witnesses so ridiculous????
by mochamint22 inso it's been a while since i've posted on the site to hello everyone.
i just am so irritated by these fools that i have to tell you guys about this.
so my husband was on his way to the store and he stopped to pump gas and there were some witnesses doing street witnessing and this brother gets out and comes up to him (i was at home, this is my hubby telling me about this) this happens to be the po of the spanish hall my mother goes to.
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Yes, I thought about contacting the instructor and telling her that I do not appreciate preaching in the class. That's not the purpose of the class at all. What I replied was that this is a Biology course, the study of living organisms, and that her religious bias has no place in the class. Biology is a form of science and science is based on FACTS not someone's opinion about the spiritual aspect of things. The teacher also made a comment reply to her stating that she needs to look at her own comments and realize the fallacy of what she was saying. She hasnt said another religious word so far. The other thing is that this witness lady is also in my other class as well and I'm like UGH! she hasn't said anything about religion yet, but i'm just waiting........
On another note, I kind of have a mind to just call up my mom and be like, No i dont wanna be a witness anymore and NO i'm not teaching my kids the "truth" and NO i dont give a damn who you tell. Those people don't walk in my shoes, they don't live my life so why the heck should I care about what they think. I don't even talk to my mother often enough for it to really matter anyway. The last time I talked to her was in like Oct. And it's rather refreshing if I may say so myself. It's just so toxic and hypocritical that it turns my stomach.
Also, last night my husband found some youtube vid that was talking about an early 90s Awake article that was talking about JWs stance on blood and how they actually had pictures of people that died because they didn't accept blood. Can you imagine that! Like its some great honor. It was blue and white and had pics of people on the front. I know I'm not giving you guys much to work with here but i cant find the vid on youtube to get the exact date. but if anyone knows what i'm talking about and knows where i can see a copy of this thatd be greatly appreciated.
mochamint
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why are witnesses so ridiculous????
by mochamint22 inso it's been a while since i've posted on the site to hello everyone.
i just am so irritated by these fools that i have to tell you guys about this.
so my husband was on his way to the store and he stopped to pump gas and there were some witnesses doing street witnessing and this brother gets out and comes up to him (i was at home, this is my hubby telling me about this) this happens to be the po of the spanish hall my mother goes to.
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So it's been a while since i've posted on the site to hello everyone. i just am so irritated by these fools that I have to tell you guys about this. so my husband was on his way to the store and he stopped to pump gas and there were some witnesses doing street witnessing and this brother gets out and comes up to him (i was at home, this is my hubby telling me about this) this happens to be the PO of the spanish hall my mother goes to. (those of you that know my story know what kind of ish i've been through with her and her congregation) so this guy tries to give my husband an Atalaya! aka Awake and he didn't take it and the brother says, "don't i know you from somewhere?" to which my husband says yes I'm sister Wells' (my mom) son-in-law. then the next question out of his dirty little mouth is, "where's your wife, is she still going to the meetings? Where?" To which my hubby totally lied and said yes i'm still going and that he didn't know the name of the congo just that it's up north. LMAO. i haven't been to a meeting since i last saw this brother which has been probably 2 yrs. So you know he's gonna run back and tell my mother --whos a beloved pioneer-- about this. ha ha...i'm waiting to see if shes going to call me about it.
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i'm going to school full time (i know! forbidden, lol) and theres this dumbass witness in my class. the classes i take are completely online and this fool woman keeps trying to preach to people on the stupid class discussion board. I'm taking a Biology course and we're talking about thought fallacies and the professor said we all have to post an example of a thought fallacy. here's hers...i almost puked when i read it:
"Recently, I was told that Jehovah's witnesses believe that 144,000 are going to heaven and preach such because they want to be the first ones to make it to heaven.
This person has not bothered to learn anything about Jehovah's Witnesses because if they had, they would know that today there are over seven million Jehovah's Witnesses world wide.
Jehovah's Witnesses believe, as the Bible says at Revelation chapter 7:4, that there are some who have a heavenly hope the number being 144,000. But Revelation 7:9 also speaks of a "great crowd which no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples, and tongues" who will live forever on the earth.
Instead of repeating what you have heard, it would be a good idea to do research and learn for yourselve what Jehovah's Witnesses believe. You could even speak with one of Jehovah's Witnesses so that they can give you correct information about their beliefs. "
REALLY?!! Yes i bet someone JUST told you that......of all the things that you could talk about, you make some dumb ass comment trying to further the work. I bet that fool was counting service time too when she studies for this class since shes throwing in stupid crap like this. Then this lady comments on a man's post about how a fallacy example for him was how his friend moved into an old house that people think are haunted because the lights flicker. He said that it's a fallacy because it's more likely that the home is just old and there are issues with the wiring since its so old. What was miss witness' reply? Im sure she typed slow and got about 30 mins more which she rounded to an hour of service time. Here you go:
"I disagree with your point that the house is just old and drafty.
In looking at the website,----removed---- it states that the light could flicker if the wiring is old. But nothing about the TVor radio actually turning on by themselves. And the house should not be that drafty where the posters are ripping off the walls.
They could have problems with wicked spirits. These powerful wicked angels have caused a lot of sleepless nights for many. According to the Bible at Deuteronomy 18:10-12, spiritism is demonic and is condenmed by God. So if we are involved in any form of spiritism, we could have demon attacks."
Why are these fools so persistent? I posted a comment stating that religion has no place in our forum. The professor also shut her down. HA HA
Thoughts????
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Hi, new to this forum. Figured I'd let everyone know about my story before I got involved.
by JonathanH inif you just want the juicy details where i leave, i'll make disclaimer where it begins, if you just want to know what happened with the elders and organization after i realized it wasn't true, i'll mark that seperately.
we didn't do jack shit in service, or in the congregation.
maybe this was how jehovah came about?
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Hi there. I read your story and I want to commend you for writing it. It takes a lot of courage to put your emotions out there. My heart dropped as I read about your sister and as the pieces started to fall apart surrounding your DFing. I have been "inactive" for a couple years now and I haven't DAd myself only so that I can maintain my relationship with my brother. But, I fear, that too will soon come to light. I have no interest in blindly following this religion anymore and I refuse to teach my kids this way of life. Just wanted to say that I am sorry for your losses, but you have gained freedom thru all of it and you will start to feel a lot better as time passes. I hope that your wife will start to sort things out. But it's a hard process and most times, it's just easier to ignore it and act like it doesnt exist. That's how I operate currently. I don't think about it and act like its not even a factor.
Mochamint
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Verifiable Former Bethelite Willing to Answer questions
by Uzzah ini am a former active poster here, former elder, former bethelite and pretty much known by people on the xjw boards since the mid 90's.
gawd that makes me sound old.. i notice that a great deal of uproar is being made by allegations of a hide in the closet alleged bethelite.
to counter the damage caused by this claim, i am happy to address any questions people may have about bethel, protocol, etc.. i was at the canada branch for 11 years, worked in multiple areas including the legal department, service desk and writing dept.
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Yeah I agree with the points on the mental health. My mom, who's still very much in- regular pioneer- told me that the WT changed things saying that it's ok now to seek that kind of treatment and it's ok to go to a mental health professional whereas before it was frowned upon because you were thought to be putting your faith in man. Maybe it's got to do with all those suicides that keep happening. I know I tried it- in that moment I just figured that I was dead anyway- a walking corpse in my moms direct words to me- so I just figured, why put this off? Let's just get it over with right now. Be done with it all. Yes, this religion does a number, and thats putting it lightly, on one's mental health. Yes the gossip is TERRIBLE. If you're not part of a clique then just forget it! you're nothing, no one. not important. There's even cliques for going out in service. There's nothing worse than being put in a car group and seeing that person's face looking like they don't wanna go with you. LAME.I vividly remember many times I was going door to door ALONE bc I was the third wheel or just didn't wanna be with someone pretending to like me since i wasnt part of their clique. UGH. nauseating...
moe