Posts by satinka

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I was freaked out on the six screens of the wt confrence call tonight

by JunkYardDog in

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PublishingCult wrote:

He was/is an arrogant ass, lol. He left one cult of lies to start one of his own. You go give him a hug, though. He likes sycophants.

I'm not interested in being drawn into another belief since leaving the jws. One cult is enough per lifetime, thank you, PublishingCult.

I'm saying Rick is a human being. He may very well be anointed. Being anointed is not exclusive to the jws, as they would have us believe. But, Rick has become ungrounded after being disfellowshipped. That is because he set his roots in the jw cult, rather than on planet earth. Right now Rick needs help just as much as any other human being needs help who has become disillusioned by the JWs. The JWs have set us up to fail upon leaving. Rick is vulnerable right now, no matter how he "appears" to you or me.

Please don't judge him so adversely! That's all I'm saying.

satinka

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The Loving Disfellowshipping Arrangement

by headisspinning in

my youngest sister is the only person in my jw family who has had any real contact with my husband and i and our baby.

for the first year she cut us off too but then after a while she seemed to realize how horrible it was and she opened up to us.. well, she is very easily influenced by the family and so she cut us off again.

she tried to feed me the line about it being for our own good blah, blah, blah.. here is an excerpt from how i replied:.

satinka

Now that we have left the organization, it is healthy for us to re-visit the rules and leave behind the ones that don't fit us.

It is time to re-write the rules to suit ourselves. That is what free will is all about!

Cheers,

satinka

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"if you chose not to choose you still have made a choice "

by jeckle in

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i will choose free will.

satinka

If people can't or won't choose, then they cannot be "responsible."

Sheeple are not "responsible"... they are co-dependent, in this case, with the elders, or with the religion.

satinka

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I was freaked out on the six screens of the wt confrence call tonight

by JunkYardDog in

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It's not Rick's fault. He was looking for an organization to "belong" to, then became disillusioned when the borg turned on him. He's just another casualty of the WT. Really, he needs our support and care.

Rick, please talk to your family doctor about getting some counselling. Go for a walk in nature. It will help you to get grounded. You may be "anointed" but you are still human, dear one. Get grounded.

Glentrevette, please call 911 and talk to someone about what you are feeling. You are important. You are a human being who wanted to trust in God. Unfortunately, a human organization wasn't the answer. Don't allow yourself to self-destruct.

Love

satinka

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The Loving Disfellowshipping Arrangement

by headisspinning in

my youngest sister is the only person in my jw family who has had any real contact with my husband and i and our baby.

for the first year she cut us off too but then after a while she seemed to realize how horrible it was and she opened up to us.. well, she is very easily influenced by the family and so she cut us off again.

she tried to feed me the line about it being for our own good blah, blah, blah.. here is an excerpt from how i replied:.

satinka

jiyuu2 wrote:

M en will expel you from the synagogue. In fact, the hour is coming when everyone that kills you will imagine he has rendered a sacred service to God. - John 16:2
It seems there will always be people who try to justify hateful things in the name of "sacred service", even to the point of 'killing' their natural family relationships.

I have been thinking about this scripture lately. This is my sentiment exactly. Well said! Thanks, jiyuu2!

satinka

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Rutherford Exposed: The Story of Berta and Bonnie

by Farkel in

it was made by a women who in later years wore crotchless panties and bras which had holes in the nipple areas.

he not only knew the woman in question (she's now deceased), he has met her numerous times.

up until recently this secret of her year's long sexual affair with rutherford was kept by the family.

satinka

Sounds believable to me.

satinka

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Is anyone here doing April's 30 hour Auxillary Pioneer Special ?

by RubaDub in

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i know there are many active jw's here and was just wondering if anyone is going to take advantage of april's special of only 30 hours for the month.. i actually might, just to irk some of the elders that can't figure me out in their minds.. it would involve 2 long days ... that's it.

even i can go out in fs in the morning with the group and hang out at bus stops and train stations the rest of the day.. i am really tempted.. rub a dub.

satinka

So now I'm curious...all you active jws...

Are you counting time while on this forum?

satinka

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Where is that "Hidden HOOK"?

by Terry in

a number of years ago i started doing something i had never done before.. i started questioning the basic premise of things which cause arguments.. why?.

long running controversy usually contains a hidden premise both sides buy into without knowing it.. by backing up one whole step and questioning the basis for the hidden premise the problem quickly goes away.. .

it looks yummy.

satinka

Yes, the JWs present themselves as a "moderate" and "loving" religion, and it is not until you get baptised that you realize you have been "hooked" and can't get out without your family being ripped apart.

The "hook" is baptism. If you never get baptised, you can never get df'd or da'd.

Then, of course, if I knew then what I know now, I would have never set foot into a kingdom hall.

Unfortunately, I was born in.

satinka

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First time ever - I attended my first Catholic Mass tonight...

by ziddina in

it was very interesting.... of course, the first thing i noticed was the building.

very different from a "kingdom hall" - this catholic church is in an extremely modern, six-sided building.

as one enters the building, their "holy water" font - fountain(???

satinka

Hi Zid,

Mr Satinka and I accompanied our friends to a Catholic Mass for Christmas once. Very formal. And because our friends are not married, they were not allowed to partake of the communion, even though they are regular church attenders. We did not go up to the front to partake, either. We are not Catholic. We are not married, either, so we would not be allowed. Catholics have quite a lot of rules to follow.

In the past, after leaving the jws, I have attended different kinds of churches...Christian Alliance Churches (shudder...too much like the jws), several New Age Churches (at least three different ones), Baptist Church (kinda harsh like the jws, too ), United Churches (most "moderate" and "inclusive" of all, in my experience).

I began thinking that church was not for me. I never really felt like I "belonged."

We are not church attenders any longer. Best thing we like to do is go for a walk in nature to feel connected.

Oh, and interestingly...I have "goddess" cards that I draw once a week or so, for inspiration!

satinka

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Do the governing body play God?

by TimothyT in

im reading ray franz's book crisis of conscience!

it is brilliant!

he brings out some amazing points as to the credibility of the governing body!

satinka

indeed

satinka