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  Christmas - love it or leave it?

  by Xanthippe in

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  i am just watching my neighbours across the road putting up christmas lights while their children run around bursting with excitement.

  i am feeling all christmassy now.

  can't wait for my daughter to come home from uni next weekend so we can go and buy a tree from the garden centre.

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  Love it!
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  Humility? Screw Humility.......

  by AllTimeJeff in

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  .....said the exiting jw.. this jw saw it all, the games, the politics.

  oh, and how this quality of "humility" was used as an anvil to keep, not just your actions in line, but your thoughts and feelings as well.. the leadership of jw's is an extremely talented bunch.

  they know exactly how to reframe concepts to their own ends.. so, once you have your awakening, and you leave, and you remember how often you were symbolically on your knees all the time, you say "never again!".

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  AllTimeJeff,

  I love this post. Well said and profound. It has many points that I've been trying to formulate in my own head for some time. This helped me validate some of them.

  Brock Talon
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  Be honest. Am I an abusive Father??

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was angry with my kid for questioning me.

  i work, i pay the bills, i provide food, clothing and shelter for them.

  instead of respect, i get attitude.

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  Data-Dog,

  When your child grows up, how he remember you?

  How will he treat you when you are old and possibly helpless and in need yourself?

  Will he treat you like you are treating him?

  Probably.
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  True Stories from the Tower - Part 1 "From Anointed to Pedophile to Bethelite"

  by BluePill2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  before i dive into the actual write-up of this experience, let me put some things straight.. i have thought long and hard if i should write more about my experiences during the 10+ years at different branches.

  during these years i worked from financial department, service department, home office and different it assignments.

  as you can imagine one sees and hears and reads a lot of stuff going through different stations in different countries.

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  BluePill2

  I cannot WAIT for "True Stories from the Tower - Part 2"....

  Awesome job my friend.

  Brock Talon
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  why am i still single?

  by redpilllizard81 in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  i have the hardest time meeting singles in the "world".

  currently inactive.

  but my dating situation is sort of in limbo and its driving me mad..

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  Yeah, it's hard to date at first when you are newly "out". But what worked for me was to not try to think about JW stuff AT ALL! ZERO. NADA.
  
  Don't think like a JW, try to think like a normal person. Try to stop worrying about what other JWs are doing for example. Stop looking at their Facebook stuff. Stop thinking about all their crap. Once I stopped caring about them and worrying what "they might think" I started doing better with the friends situation as well as the girls situation.
  
  Try to develop friends too, not just chasing romance. These friends can show you how to "act" around people of the opposite sex in a non-JW way, which is what you need to do to get anywhere.
  
  By the way, with these friends, come clean and tell them you feel like an awkward dork and tell them why. Most of these people will take pity on your JW past knowing it wasn't your fault you were in there in the first place. Most will want to try to help you get a date, get laid, whatever you need. Unlike JWs, most non-JWs won't judge you for who you are.
  
  Some will even like you for it.
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  What Rumors Were Said About You Either While You Were In Or Were Out Of The Organization?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  when i slowly but surely departed, i heard that the love of money was what drew me out.

  (yeah, right)..

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  The rumors were that I was going through a mid life crisis, partying too much, staying out late and chasing young tail, spending money like no tomorrow and driving a new muscle car around town too fast.

  Oh wait, that stuff was true...
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  JW courtship

  by bigmac in

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  Goodbye JWD/JWN (my last post)

  by slimboyfat in

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  2. friends

  after some considerable thought i have decided that i will no longer post on this forum because i want to return to jehovah.

  thank you for all the kindness and many interesting discussions over the years.

  i wish you all well in the future and the decisions you make.

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  In my youth I had a "best friend" JW who was getting married and asked me to be his best man which I gladly accepted. A month before the wedding, his fiance leaves him and moves in with two guys, BOTH of which she was having a sexual relationship with. She was DF'd for this and for about 1 year straight all I heard from my friend was that he was better off without that "whore", that "liar", that "unfaithful slut". I didn't hear from him for a few months after that first tragic year that I spent with his head on my shoulder. I comforted him the best I could and then he went his way.
  
  Then, out of the blue, he calls to tell me that she "returned to him" and that they are now dating again and will be married soon. At a loss for words, all I could say was "be careful".
  
  He proceeded to excoriate me for being "judgmental" and "unforgiving". I tried to explain my words, but he hung up on me. I only said "be careful" by the way. That was all. Two simple words. This, after he called her names for 1 straight year every time I saw him. This after fielding his complaints and giving him the "it will be OK" speech over and over again.
  
  Anyway, he got married and didn't even invite me to the wedding. That was my punishment for trying to be a real friend to him and for worrying about him.
  
  I guess when presented with his news, I should have simply said "congratulations!" Of course I really wouldn't mean it, but as it turns out, that would be the only thing he could handle emotionally. Now that I'm older and wiser and presented with something similar, that's what I do.
  
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  Congratulations SlimBoyFat!
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  What does the fox say?

  by oppostate in

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  2. entertainment

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbwcwh1giqo.

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  This darn thing is stuck in my head now!

  Curse you oppostate.

  
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  In general, the people on this forum have a poor outlook spiritually speaking.

  by Stand for Pure Worship in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i waz reading the august 15 wt study article, elisha saw fiery chariots, do you?

  and it made me think about this forum.

  if you remember, syria was hunting god's prophet, elisha.

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  Stand For Pure Worship,

  I challenge you to put your words to the test and do what I did. Pioneer. Apply for and get accepted to go to "Gods House", go to Bethel. Be used to further kingdom interests right there at the hub of the Organization you so revere.

  Put your money where your mouth is and do it. Don't "imaginate" it, don't just talk big talk, do it.

  I did it. I felt the same way then as you do now, that is, when I was young, naive and gullable.

  When you come back a broken man, then look me up on Facebook and we'll talk. Let's see if you feel the same way then as you do now.

  Brock Talon