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  Reaching Loved Ones Stuck in a Cult: An Idea for Discussion

  by 00DAD in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  you may have heard the expression: "the map is not the territory.

  " have you ever thought about how this idea may help you reach your loved ones stuck in a cult?

  the phrase has been attributed to polish-american scientist and philosopher alfred korzybski.

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  For reference:

  Ehrman on Fresh Air regarding why we suffer:

  http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=19096131

  Ehrman on Fresh Air regarding the contradictions in the gospels:

  http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=124572693
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  Reaching Loved Ones Stuck in a Cult: An Idea for Discussion

  by 00DAD in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  you may have heard the expression: "the map is not the territory.

  " have you ever thought about how this idea may help you reach your loved ones stuck in a cult?

  the phrase has been attributed to polish-american scientist and philosopher alfred korzybski.

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  On a related note, I think my mother felt threatened by my obsession with NPR and non-fiction books well before I had even thought about leaving the organization. I remember her expressing concern on a few occasions that I was filling my head with worldly thoughts.

  I'm glad I did.
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  Reaching Loved Ones Stuck in a Cult: An Idea for Discussion

  by 00DAD in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  you may have heard the expression: "the map is not the territory.

  " have you ever thought about how this idea may help you reach your loved ones stuck in a cult?

  the phrase has been attributed to polish-american scientist and philosopher alfred korzybski.

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  I think jwfacts makes an excellent point in his first post in this thread. He mentions the importance of introduction of “education that undermines their beliefs, but that does not seem connected to their beliefs. Things like Ted.com, that show how remarkable scientific advancement is.”

  Almost every time I have had the occasion to explain my exit from the organization to someone, I cite the key role of National Public Radio. I became an NPR listener approximately 5 years before I quit attending meetings. When you are constantly bombarded with nonsense made up to be “intellectual” at The Kingdom Hall, it is remarkably refreshing to actually have your brain stimulated by actual intelligent discussion. NPR does this.

  NPR forces its listeners to be open to experience, it challenges their pre-conceived thoughts and biases. NPR is an expose on humanity and it puts its listeners in touch with their fellow man in a very important way.

  The topics discussed on many of the national programs relate to religion, faith, culture, social issues and history. I remember the first time I heard Terry Gross interview Bart Ehrman. I couldn’t wait to discuss it with an elder I had coffee with the next morning. (He just looked at me like I had 3 eyes, and I dismissed the subject, but I was thrilled!)

  Shortly after becoming an NPR listener, I began purchasing books that were being discussed on the shows which led to a further opening of my mind. TED was another valuable resource, but I didn’t become familiar with it until I was already near my exit.

  I think there is a lot to what you’re suggesting, 00DAD. But, there isn’t a one-size-fits-all answer to getting love ones out. Learning to see things form a different perspective is vital and even though it may not lead your loved ones to leave the organization, it will certainly accelerate the process if they ever get dislodged from their mental prison.

  Great thread.
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  RBC biggie divulges WTS expects disaster victims helped by RBC volunteers to fork over insurance money to the WTS

  by oppostate in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my wife spent all morning long preparing this super thanksgiving banquet.

  with a huge turkey, stuffing, mashed potatoes, gravy, cranberry sauce.

  and greenbeen salad, pie and icecream.. yummy!.

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  No surprise there. Follow the money...
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  C...

  by AGuest in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  peace to you (forgive me if that offends/insults, but i felt wrong not offering it in opening this new thread).

  to continue where we left off on the "truce" thread:.

  there is no such thing as relative truth - it is not open to subjective feelings.

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  My eyes immediately crossed when I clicked on this link.
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  "Papa John’s CEO Threatens To Make His Pizza Taste Worse Than It Already Does If Obamacare Not Repealed"

  by FlyingHighNow in

  1. social
  2. humour

  this is so brilliant:.

  http://www.freewoodpost.com/2012/11/14/papa-johns-ceo-threatens-to-make-his-pizza-taste-worse-than-it-already-does-if-obamacare-not-repealed/?fb_comment_id=fbc_464152183636910_4819387_464471203605008.

  papa johns will not back down to the big government stronghold trying to suffocate the fortune of ceo john schnatter.

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  Lots of reality denial on display here.

  Educate us on the real world, O Wise One.
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  The Art of Love Bombing !!

  by Unbrainwashed publisher1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so do you think we help the wt society by agreeing to not have any contact with witness family, therefore our family and friends have no resistance to the wt control?.

  what if we fought fire with fire and love bombed back?

  like send holiday greeting cards with picture of all family together saying wish you where here!.

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  Case in point:

  I had a discussion with my JW mom several weeks ago about a fellow apostate. She expressed how painful and insulting it was for that apostate to send Christmas cards to her JW parents (close friends with my folks).

  They're fucked up in the head, man. They'll just take it as persecution...like you're rubbing it in their face that you're worldly now.
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  Hello!

  by Zebastian in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i would like to delete my account here.

  how do i do?.

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  May I ask why you want to delete your account?
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  New James Bond Film: Skyfall

  by leavingwt in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  i had an opportunity to see skyfall in the theater yesterday.

  it's almost as good as casino royale, with some parts of it being even better.

  the opening sequence was a real thrill, one of the best.

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  I thought it was fantastic. It WAS better than Quantum of Solace and I would put it on par with Casino Royal if it had had a better bond girl and she were included more in the story line. Eva Green was fantastic, and Vesper - what a great name!

  

  SPOILER ALERT!:

  The entrance of the villain was probably the best in all of the Bond movies. The awkward sexually agressive come on by the villain set the perfect stage for just how crazy this guy was going to be. Javier Bardem was awesome!

  I thought the Adele song was great, I love her anyway.

  Definitely a must-see.
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  A letter from a College Dropout

  by Ethos in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  dear harvard university,.

  i have decided go leave this institution of education.

  let me explain why.

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