JWs are so lazy they need a book that does all the reasoning on the Scriptures for them!
Posts by NVR2L8
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25Went to SAD
by leaving_quietly inb.o.r.i.n.g.. same ol' stuff.
highlights:.
- reading the bible "must be more than an intellectual experience".
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Who's visiting Las Vegas?
by Quarterback ini'm welcoming your trip tips, and want to know about fun things to do.. i'm staying at caesars.
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NVR2L8
18 visits to Vegas for me...Stayed at Caesar's 5 times, Mirage, TI, Rio, MGM, Mandalay Bay, Monte Carlo, Aladdin (now Planet Hollywood) and the old Stardust... Cirque du soleil "O" at the Bellagio and Love at the Mirage are amazing shows. Dinner at Mon ami Gabi with coffee and French pastries at la Belle Madeleine at the Paris Hotel...all of this within walking distance from Caesar's palace. The Palms in the forum shops has the best steaks.
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Ripped up my Public Talks
by konceptual99 injust been doing a clear out and found all my old public talk outlines and notes.
just ripped them up and threw them away.
felt really good.
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NVR2L8
I felt the same way when I dumped all my talks, notes from the CO MS/elders meetings and bound volumes in the trash when I moved into a new house. My believing wife attempted to stop me but I told her the old literature is now full of apostate teaching and lies which caused my falling out..
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Confused?
by nomorepain13 ini have been going to meetings since i was a child, long story short only recently i've started taking the truth seriously, i am not baptized but just an unbaptized publisher.
truth is i am so lonely in the congregation.
the other young people in the cong don't like me because they dont think i am going to "stay" for long, i've even worked on the ministry with an older brother and asked her am i giving the wrong impression to people?
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NVR2L8
Welcome Nomorepain.
How would you feel if someone would demand you dressed like him, like and eat the same food, watch the same movies, agree with everything he says whether he's right or wrong, never have a different opinion...before you can be his friend! You see JW indoctrination is exactly this: teaching you to conform before you can be a trusted "friend". This friendship is conditional to continuing to conform. I was a JW for 50 years and I stopped going to the KHall suddenly and I never received a phone call or even a visit by my best "friends" in the congregation. You see, they loved the JW I was and not the person NVR2L8 is. The morning after I decided to no longer attend meetings I was still the same caring person who lent them a hand fixing their cars, renovate their homes, played hockey or rode motorcycle with, lend some money to some of them...but that doesn't count anymore because I no longer fit the conditions to be their friend. So Nomorepain, I ask you...are these the type of friends you want? For the last few years I have made many new friends who care for me regardless of my religious beliefs or how I choose to live my life. I have lots of fun with them and none of it is immoral as the WT would like you to believe.You should seek that type of friends.
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Weekends Are Wonderful Since Leaving The Cult
by minimus inno silly meetings.
no wasting time knocking on doors, bothering people.....life is good..
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NVR2L8
Quick builts were a nice way to escape the congregation boring routine until RBC took over total control over of the projects and all the locals were left doing all the crappy jobs "skilled" tradesmen don't want to do.
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What is / was the first thing(s) you looked forward to doing once you were out for good?
by SecretHeart11 inone of the things that keeps me going is thinking about the things my family and i will be able to do once we are all out, together, and free at last.
(and we will be out together, i'm staying positive!).
i soooo look forward to christmas.
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NVR2L8
For me it is the freedom to make decisions without having to check "God's" point of view on the matter or worry about what will the "brothers" think. I was at a large business convention last week and I enjoyed the freedom to join clients in a cigar and liquor lounge. As me most of my clients are non smokers but they smoked a cigar and sipped on cognac. It was the first time for me and I don't plan to pick up smoking...but it felt great to do what I wanted without feeling guilt. I no longer feel guilt for using Saturday morning to wash the car or to go for a mortorcycle ride. I'm sure we all felt bad for stealing time from Jehovah because we chose to take a day off instead of going to the meeting...this feeling is now replaced by the joy of discovering and experiencing activities I had no time for or that were forbidden for a Christian.
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Can god see into the future?
by DuvanMuvan inthis is something that's been bothering me for a while.. if god could see into the future, why has he allowed so many bad things to happen?
for example in the garden of eden.
he should have known from the beginning what would happen.if there was even the tiniest chance that they'd eat the fruit then god obviously didn't think it would be benefical to, idk, prevent it from happening?
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NVR2L8
Just to illustrate the WT quoted by Blondie: my dad can't predict the future but when I was young he expressed his concerns when I told him I was buying a motorcycle. He lovingly explained the risks of riding and how he didn't want me to go through the same pain he went through when he was involved in a trafic accident. Since I have free will he let me make the final decision. Now if dad was like God and knew for sure that I would crash, kill myself and to protect my free will he said nothing, could I still say that I have a loving dad?
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Appointed men & the 10 hour rule
by PlatinumFix indear all,.
could someone explain where it is written that mservants should be doing the congregation average/10 hours minimum?.
platinumfix.
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NVR2L8
Usually to qualify as a MS one has to take the lead in field ministry so a 10 hour average would be an indicator. After being appointed if a MS circumstances change and his hour average drops the elders may be patient before removing the brother. That's what I experienced when I started traveling extensively for work...I asked to be removed but the elders refused saying they would give me time to correct the situation. At that time I was waking up to TTATT and my work situation was just an excuse so I insisted to be removed and they complied.
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Yay! Apostates are no longer "mentally diseased!"
by rory-ks inoriginal nwt reads: "if any man teaches other doctrine and does not assent to healthful words, those of our lord jesus christ, nor to the teaching that accords with godly devotion, he is puffed up [with pride], not understanding anything, but being mentally diseased over questionings and debates about words.
from these things spring envy, strife, abusive speeches, wicked suspicions...".
2013 revision reads: "if any man teaches another doctrine and does not agree with the wholesome instruction, which is from our lord jesus christ, nor with the teaching that is in harmony with godly devotion,he is puffed up with pride and does not understand anything.
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NVR2L8
I guess non English speaking apostates are still mentally diseased...as there is no plan to have new grey bibles in other languages than English.
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Why I feel that worshiping "God" is a waste of time...
by CaptainSchmideo inhave you ever had a so-called friend who never seemed to be around when you really needed his active, participatory help, but was always good enough to show up after the fact, to lend you his "support" after the event?.
maybe he failed to show up when you needed to move furniture.
did he show up afterward, and praise you for the ability to get it done without his help?
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NVR2L8
Jesus gave the illustration of the good Samaritan and sadly God resembles the two men who walked by without assisting a man in distress...