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  Average Age of this Forum?

  by Garrett in

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  2. friends

  heyo!.

  i'm quite interested in knowing the average age of those of us who use this forum.

  i made a quick strawpoll that you can find at the following link: http://strawpoll.me/4340636 just pick an age and click "vote" if you wish to participate.. admins: if this breaks any rules, i apologize in advance..

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  91...close the door! There is a poster here, Mouthy, who is in her late eighties...that brings the age average up quickly...
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  Average Age of this Forum?

  by Garrett in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  heyo!.

  i'm quite interested in knowing the average age of those of us who use this forum.

  i made a quick strawpoll that you can find at the following link: http://strawpoll.me/4340636 just pick an age and click "vote" if you wish to participate.. admins: if this breaks any rules, i apologize in advance..

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  60 here
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  CANADA: Jehovah's Witnesses appoint female 2015 District Convention Co-ordinator ???

  by jwleaks in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  all along the watch tower: annual convention returns next month.

  cornwall seaway news.

  may 04, 2015. cornwall, ontario - it's nearly time for the annual pilgrimage to cornwall for thousands of jehovah's witnesses.. the faithful will start converging in cornwall on june 12 for the first of three watch tower conventions being held at the cornwall civic complex in the ed lumley arena.. altogether more than 7,500 delegates will be attending the three conventions, pumping in excess of $3.5 million dollars in economic benefits into the community, the city said monday.

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  Anyone remember Lynn Swan...I would not call him a girl...
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  The Watchtower's cash flow problems and financial solvency with lawsuits payouts

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i think with all this change we see occurring with the watchtower corporation's to deal with things means they are in financial trouble and are seeking to consolidate their real estate holdings for easy sale if needed to stay financially solvent.. they will stop or slowly decrease the door to door work and focus on the material potential of each member young and old for what ever they can get out of them.

  this will lead to more leaving under their tyranny.

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  They sell off old properties, then have their members contribute money and free labour to build new buildings. How can you ever run out of money that way.
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  Apostasy Trial - Part 2 - Satan is Using Google

  by berrygerry in

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  2. beliefs

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=373zbncuuoq

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  Steve2

  There is no need for elders to record the meeting since there are 3 of them to corroborate what took place while the accused is always alone...Judicial committees are spiritual executions to silence any dissidence from the organization with no consideration for justice.

  These men's first goal is not to answer any questions. All they want to do is establish where Isaac stands in regards to the organization. In fact when Isaac attempts to bring proof to his alegations using WT quotes they tell him they don't have all night. The recording shows that these "qualified" spiritual men cannot and do not want to bring back to reason the accused. They only need an excuse to isolate him from the flock to mitigate the danger of being exposed.
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  How many here gave up having a family for the sake of the "truth"?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is a sensitive topic for many of us i know, but i am wondering how many here actually gave up the idea of having a family "in this system" for the sake of "kingdom activity or service"??.

  start the count here with my wife and i.

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  Sadly, while some JWs may have regrets being childless and alone in their latter years, others resent having their spiritual career plans interrupted by an unplanned birth. I often heard some say they could have been special pioneers or missionaries if they didn't have a child, making it sound like their life was ruined by the child. Isn't this cult messed up!
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  How many here gave up having a family for the sake of the "truth"?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is a sensitive topic for many of us i know, but i am wondering how many here actually gave up the idea of having a family "in this system" for the sake of "kingdom activity or service"??.

  start the count here with my wife and i.

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  Thank you Stumpy for posting the results of your research. I know several sisters who remained single or married very late in life to secure a permanent pioneer partner...some of them died alone leaving nothing behind. I was not very obedient and I got married in 1973. Some family members didn't attend our wedding. Our first child was born early 1976...another cause of concern about our spirituality. Today we have grand children and I could not imagine a life without my family and I am happy that I didn't obey the WT because every other times I did resulted in hardship down the line.
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  Being in a cult - what good did it do?

  by Garrett in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so, here's a bit of a different point of view.

  while most of us will agree that our time within the jw cult was rather terrible, however, i'd like to look at another aspect.

  did anything good come out of being in a cult and then waking up from it?.

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  Ucantnome....this is exactly what I am talking about: who's to say your kids wouldn't have been better off not being raised as good Christians? Aren't there any good non believers? All religions and cults want you to believe life without them is worthless. Quoting the bible, isn't it Paul who says that people of the nations do what's good naturally? Today's root of social upheaval is religion, and although it may do good for some individuals it ruins collectivities.
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  Being in a cult - what good did it do?

  by Garrett in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so, here's a bit of a different point of view.

  while most of us will agree that our time within the jw cult was rather terrible, however, i'd like to look at another aspect.

  did anything good come out of being in a cult and then waking up from it?.

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  I used to think I would've turned out bad if I didn't know the "truth"...but that's what I was lead to believe as part of the indoctrination. Now that I am out I am asking myself how much more successful I could have been if not for the cult. I would have been more educated and possibly a professional or business man like some of my classmates. (one being a world class chess player and another a news anchor for a national network). I still did well without a formal education but I'll never know how much better I could have done....
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  Being in a cult - what good did it do?

  by Garrett in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so, here's a bit of a different point of view.

  while most of us will agree that our time within the jw cult was rather terrible, however, i'd like to look at another aspect.

  did anything good come out of being in a cult and then waking up from it?.

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  Garrett

  For me absolutely nothing good came from being in a cult. Using one of the WT illustrations, do you need to lose a limb to realize how useful it was...be sick to appreciate good health or be immoral to appreciate virtue? Likewise being prisoner of a cult didn't increase the value of the freedom I should have enjoyed from the start. I do realize that I wasted the prime years of my life slaving for a printing company - a pain I shouldn't have to live with if I had lived a normal life.

  Edit: Phizzy and I are on the same page!