Lovesjah
Billions of hours to recruit new members - 0 phone call to inquire about NVR2L8 who hasn't been to the meetings for a year. I guess my JW friends are too busy standing by a literature kart...
Posts by NVR2L8
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79The really cool feeling of community within JWs
by Phaedra ini remember going out with other jws after the memorial.. small gatherings.. picnics at some local landmark.. the feeling of closeness, camaraderie, friendship with like minded people you could trust.. haven't experienced it since i left.. really miss that..
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The really cool feeling of community within JWs
by Phaedra ini remember going out with other jws after the memorial.. small gatherings.. picnics at some local landmark.. the feeling of closeness, camaraderie, friendship with like minded people you could trust.. haven't experienced it since i left.. really miss that..
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NVR2L8
Lovesjah....aren't our shepherds supposed to be caring for the flock? What about leaving the 99 to find that one lost sheep? Shouldn't my sudden disappearance raise concerns for the caretakers of our soul? What about those I helped materially and spiritually?Shouldn't they be prompted to return the favor? You said that they are waiting for me to call them...what kind of friends do that? You can only be friends with them on their own terms...and I don't need that kind of one way friendship. Every one of these "friends" would turn me in to the elders in the blink of an eye if I shared with them the reasons for leaving the cult. There's not one of them I could have a heart to heart conversation without being viewed as an mentally diseased apostate...not even my wife!
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The really cool feeling of community within JWs
by Phaedra ini remember going out with other jws after the memorial.. small gatherings.. picnics at some local landmark.. the feeling of closeness, camaraderie, friendship with like minded people you could trust.. haven't experienced it since i left.. really miss that..
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NVR2L8
lovesjah and Frank Ward...
Six years ago I stopped attending JW meetings after 50 years of faithful service. I was never reproved or inactive and growing up I was on the program of several conventions , including an international one in New York City because of my exemplary conduct. Although never an elder, I gave public talks in other congregations, conducted the ministry school occasionally and was a book study conductor for the group we hosted in our house. I served as the account servant and for many years was a sign language translator. I was the go to guy for last minute parts on the school or service meeting parts. Then I stopped accompanying my wife to the meetings because I could no longer keep up with the numerous doctrinal changes starting with the overlapping generation. It's been six years and I am still waiting for the first phone call from my closely knit JW community. The best they have done is for two elders to come to my door unannounced to officially inquire, this more than a year after I stopped attending. One of the elders I considered a close friend....he hugged me at every meeting and yet, he never called me to ask how I was doing, and now over a year later he's at my door with another elder in their suits and Bible in hand...hypocrites. The best I get now from the warm JW is an occasional hello from "friends" through my wife when she returns from the meeting...by the way, I see the Kingdom Hall from the corner of my street.
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The really cool feeling of community within JWs
by Phaedra ini remember going out with other jws after the memorial.. small gatherings.. picnics at some local landmark.. the feeling of closeness, camaraderie, friendship with like minded people you could trust.. haven't experienced it since i left.. really miss that..
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NVR2L8
To your point Pbrow....I found a great feeling of community with some of my neighbors who ride motorcycles. We meet regularly at a coffee shop, organize group rides, help each other with repairs, do charity fund raising. Likewise, in my hockey league, we go out after the games, some guys help each other with finding jobs or getting work done...The best thing about it all is no one cares about the religion your in or your political opinion. All that matters is that you treat others the same way you wish to be treated.
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Trained to Keep Our Mouths Shut
by compound complex inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf_b5kezylw&feature=youtu.be.
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NVR2L8
Thanks Coco.
Same mentality as the JWs. Sweep everything under the rug, ignore the victims and protect the organisation. My involvement with the JW goes way back when physical discipline was the only form used and kids were crying on their way to the washroom because they knew they were there to get spanked for just being normal kids during the meeting.
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Does Jehovah Intervene - JW Teaching
by thedepressedsoul ini have been a jw my whole life and i have never been able to get a clear answer on this question.
jw's do not believe that jehovah will intervene if someone is sick, dying or stopping a car crash.
they feel that jehovah is letting "this world" play out before he solves all of these problems.
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NVR2L8
An elder once told me that Jah made a real estate fall through to guide him into an area where the need for elders was great. I asked him how God decides between acting in his real estate deal instead of saving faithful brothers from persecution, starvation and suffering to death? I told him I prayed for a dying friend and to find a job...and I got the job while my friend died...why did Jah answer the lesser important request? Blank stare...I guess his anti-apostate warning bell started ringing because he started avoiding me.
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OK friends lets be honest, if a Nuclear Holocaust took place today how many of you would return to the KH?
by James Mixon inspeaking for my self, no way in hell.. this question to see if you really have been deprogramed,.
do you 100% believe it is not the truth.. a fourth of the world hit by a nuclear attack..
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NVR2L8
I would call my service group overseer and ask if we are all supposed to find shelter at the kingdom hall...lol
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We would love to have you back
by NVR2L8 inone of the businesses i cover is owned by jws and the father and 2 sons knew me as an active brother until 3 years ago when i told one of them i no longer attend the meeting.
today the father and one of the sons asked me if i was still inactive.
i told them it has been more than 5 years since i last been at a meeting.
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NVR2L8
Careful, you hit the nail on the head. Returning on their terms doesn't address why I left in the first place. The brochure and video are really made for them - it appease their conscience by creating the illusion they are doing everything to help those who left back into the fold. In fact, they're doing absolutely nothing at all if one must fully submit to their rules and accept their doctrine without the right to question. No thanks for me. -
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We would love to have you back
by NVR2L8 inone of the businesses i cover is owned by jws and the father and 2 sons knew me as an active brother until 3 years ago when i told one of them i no longer attend the meeting.
today the father and one of the sons asked me if i was still inactive.
i told them it has been more than 5 years since i last been at a meeting.
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NVR2L8
Sloppy. ..that's the issue...they don't see anything wrong with the organisation's use of money...it's all justified in their brainwashed mind. It's all for the preaching work. Why would anyone question this unless you're an apostate.
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We would love to have you back
by NVR2L8 inone of the businesses i cover is owned by jws and the father and 2 sons knew me as an active brother until 3 years ago when i told one of them i no longer attend the meeting.
today the father and one of the sons asked me if i was still inactive.
i told them it has been more than 5 years since i last been at a meeting.
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NVR2L8
One of the businesses I cover is owned by JWs and the father and 2 sons knew me as an active brother until 3 years ago when I told one of them I no longer attend the meeting. Today the father and one of the sons asked me if I was still inactive. I told them it has been more than 5 years since I last been at a meeting. The father talked about the November video where a governing body member warmly invites people in my situation to return. I replied that I have not seen the video but that I read the brochure since my wife is still active and brought it home and added this brochure doesn't address why left. I said that I wouldn't be returning to the same religion I left with all the recent changes. As an example I talked about the use of video broadcast especially when the organisation condemned the televangelists. He replied that televangelists were doing it to raise money, to which I replied the Watchtower was doing the same. They said the GB were shifting the way the donations were going to be used to expand the preaching work, not paying to service bethelites or special pioneers. Since there is a lower demand for printed material fewer workers are needed. They both believed that the changes were very positive since it sends more people in the field where the need is great. They asked me to look at the broadcast and the father said he would check with me if I did the next time I visit. Both had the typical JW fake smile and they were fully convinced of Christ direction in all the organisational changes...Because I was on company time and will be returning to conduct business I just couldn't hit them with the real issues that made me leave the cult because I am absolutely sure they would freak out.