I am with Stan and Tallon.
I totally disagree with their doctrine and I believe it's a cult holding hostage those I love.
It's a 10 for me.
so, on a scale of 1 to 10, where 1 is absolutely pro-jw, 5 is neutral and 10 is youtubing nutjob apostate, where do you stand?.
i'm probably around a 6. i have the view that jws are a nothing marginal religion.
if i hadn't been brought up as one i doubt they would have ever entered my consciousness.. the reasons it's a 6 and not a 5 is that i have some concerns over their child baptism and safeguarding procedures, but i think it's down to them being a bit dim rather than any pro child abusing ethos.
I am with Stan and Tallon.
I totally disagree with their doctrine and I believe it's a cult holding hostage those I love.
It's a 10 for me.
how do you view your upbringing as a witness?.
most of us who were raised as witnesses would appreciate that some aspects of our upbringing were ok. a foundation and measure of stability came with it.. but, it struck me too, that we also lost so very much!
and we lost a lot of potential.. by this i mean, we need to look at not just what we lost, or what was deprived of us, but what that ended up costing us as adults into the future.. if i take $10 from you, you have lost just $10.. but, if you were going to use that $10 to buy something that would end up earning you $1000, then i actually took $1000 from you!.
With more than 40 years of public speaking and cold calling experience I have been able to make a career in sales and technical training....Sadly though, kids today acquire the same expertise in 4 years of university which give them credentials that commands way more money.
i have had it confirmed now, that since stopping attending over 18 months ago, the elders have set out to deliberately ruin my name and character .. they have been talking to every witness from the local area and saying things like "be careful of him, he has the ability to implant thoughts in your minds, and he only pretends to be kind and caring".
so, all i have to say to them is, "bravo!
if that is the method you want to employ, you have reached the very depths of bad behaviour!".
Their attitude sure demonstrate how they really want to help you return to Jehovah's kind organization...by ruining your reputation.
so i would love to hear and make more comments here on how "self-brainwashing" is done in jehovah's witnesses and how it becomes a problem when trying to wake up our loved ones.leah remini was on bill maher's show on friday, feb. 17th.
she had some great comments about things said on her series about scientology.
one was how members are "self-brainwashing" because they spend some hours every day doing self-study.
One of the turning point for me was when I whispered an answer to my then 5 year old granddaughter during the WT study so she could put up her hand and repeat the answer...it made me realize that the only difference for me was that I read the answer given in the magazine. Saying it in my own words still never made it my answer...
http://www.npr.org/2017/02/19/510585965/poor-education-leads-to-lost-dreams-and-low-income-for-many-jehovahs-witnesses.
february 19, 20176:51 pm et.
heard on all things considered.
There's another typo.....she wanted to be nurse. ..
news bulletin: fessler versus watchtower – opening statements and motions in jehovah’s witness child abuse trial – day 1. .
posted on february 12, 2017. city hall, philadelphia, pennsylvania.
on a cold philadelphia morning the 7th of february, 2017, stephanie fessler walked into the court of common pleas of pennsylvania, first judicial district, civil trial division.
and it was with great sadness that today my favorite pair of dirty denim, armani jeans were thrown in the bin.
they cost me £260 to purchase, and were value for money, as they were worn for many years and together we shared some wonderful occasions.they were stitched on numerous occasions, and loving repaired.
but today, and to my wife's relief i finally binned my amani jeans.
I have 2 items from my dad: a mechanic's ball hammer and a thermometer you hang in the shop as advertising. Both items are more than 50 years old and they remind me of how hard my dad worked to provide for our family.
wife and i have watched the whole series and just finished episode 7 last night.
personally, i am seeing a great deal more subtle and day to day similarities to watchtower than the obvious ones i already knew existed, ie shunning.
very eye opening and heartbreaking, even more so than going clear in my mind.
I agree with NikL. JW will see subtle differences as proof that they're not in a cult. For example, scientologists follow a leader while JWs are guided by a governing body...scientology is based on the writings of a man while JWs follow the bible (as if that book wasn't written by men). On the other hand they cannot see that the same kind of control is exercised by both cults such as not being allowed to question the doctrine, holding family members as hostages with the threat of disconection or the lifetime commitment to the cult.
to me it seems that there are a growing number of jws who reject a few to most doctrines of jws and yet still believe that they are in "jehovah's organisation.
" i have come across quite a few who for example, reject the 1914 doctrine entirely and yet remain psuedo-jws.. take a look at this page: http://e-jw.org/index.php?threads/the-ultimate-generational-leap-rebuttal.2521/#post-21793.
those are jws who reject 1914 and even the gb.
The concept of "new light" creates the illusion of a higher being correcting the path of his people in due time. It doesn't matter for JWs not to have the correct understanding now because if they wait long enough things will be corrected and in their view no other religion benefit from such divine adjustments.
come on a believer, everyone knows it was you so own up to it and teacher will not be cross!.
this is exactly what seems to be happening, a believer runs in drops the stink bomb and runs out again...only to pear around the door when he/she deems it safe to do so.
😅😅😅.
A Believer...don't waste your time finding fault in other religions to validate that you have the truth. Have you ever considered that a false belief can be replaced by another false belief? That is what happened to my parents who replaced their belief in heaven and hell by the hope of surviving Armageddon and living forever in a paradise. My dad died 13 years ago and my mom is now 83 years old and she still believes the end is just around the corner. The WT religion is great at bait and switch or introducing new light...