Posts by NVR2L8

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What Is The Position Of Witnesses For People Who Are Inactive And Don’t Want To Be Bothered By Anyone?

by minimus in

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i used to have some close friends simply pay me a friendly visit or call to see how i was doing.. i am curious as to whether or not the society instructed witnesses to no longer check on inactive ones and treat them as marked or disfellowshipped..

NVR2L8

Newsheep...I sent you a message...

I have been inactive for 10 years and when the elders came for a visit after I hadn't been to meetings for a year I told them I knew where the hall was and had their phone number, but I needed to be left alone. I haven't heard from them again. I have attended two or three wedding receptions and one funeral and everyone greeted me as when I went to the meetings. My wife is active and 3 years ago we move in a new area and I have not been contacted by the elders there either.

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Will "social distancing" help JWs wake up.

by Tantalon in

with the existing and still to come covid19 lock downs in many countries i wonder if not being obliged to attend meetings and field service will give many jws the opportunity to clear their mind a little and start to see the cracks.

i know they will be expected to log on to their devices but with no one other than family to monitor this it could be a circuit breaker for many.

of course the fear of end times pestilence may counter that.

NVR2L8

No. It's become an opportunity to rehearse for the great tribulation. Tomorrow my wife will watch the meeting on Zoom at my son's home. Last week she connected on the phone to listen to a talk given somewhere in Florida and we're in Canada. I have seen Facebook posts from JWs saying how the governing body works hard to protect them and how they should obey to be safe. This pandemic is making JW delusional about who can really save them and I have to resist telling them that the Watch Tower doesn't do anything at all to support the medical field and research, which is the only hope to get through this.

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Can single sisters get Breast Augmentation?

by friedchicken in

i am curious can a single jw sister get a breast augmentation?

will the elders disfellowship her?

will jehovah be angry with her or upset?

NVR2L8

I personally know of a pioneer sister who had breast augmentation surgery a few months before her wedding. It was kept a secret even to her fiancé...So if no one knows there's no issues.

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Upon learning of a terminal illness would you return to being a JW to appease your family?

by NVR2L8 in

this is an hypothetical question...i am doing well.

but i was thinking about how my jw family, grandchildren and all will feel when their inactive grandfather dies with no hope of being reunited in paradise.

of course there would be immediate rejoicing if i came back to the "truth" and a surge of conditional love from the "friends".

NVR2L8

Thanks for your interesting answers. To be clear, I am in good terms with my whole family, including my brother who's an elder. They know I no longer believe and we leave religious matters out of our comversations. I have no intention in returning but I was just thinking of how my family would react if I "returned" even for a short time before the permanent vacation. It would be really hard to pretend that I believe again...

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Upon learning of a terminal illness would you return to being a JW to appease your family?

by NVR2L8 in

this is an hypothetical question...i am doing well.

but i was thinking about how my jw family, grandchildren and all will feel when their inactive grandfather dies with no hope of being reunited in paradise.

of course there would be immediate rejoicing if i came back to the "truth" and a surge of conditional love from the "friends".

NVR2L8

This is an hypothetical question...I am doing well. But I was thinking about how my JW family, grandchildren and all will feel when their inactive grandfather dies with no hope of being reunited in paradise. Of course there would be immediate rejoicing if I came back to the "truth" and a surge of conditional love from the "friends". After I am gone all would hold the hope of seeing me resurrect which would make my passing less painful than facing the permanency of death. In reality my dying wish would be that they all realize this life is all we have so they shouldn't be wasting it prisoners of a cult...what do you think?

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What was the retirement plans you heard brothers talk about if any

by JimmyYoung in

i know some would not think about retirement.

i had one brother who would pioneer as he could afford and when he paid off his home he was about to collect social security.

he made enough that his plan was to work two to three days a week and pioneer the rest of the week.

NVR2L8

My parents' story is similar to Tiki's...no investments in a pension fund or life insurance. They never owned a home because the end was around the corner. Dad had invalidity insurance at work that paid his salary for 8 years until the government old age pension kicked in. They lived the simple life of full time servants and today my old mom is just waiting for the new system...

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why do jws hate pagans?

by nowawake14 in

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paganism from my view is just a mental fantasy.

it's not real.

so why do jws get mad at it anyway?

NVR2L8

I think the JW definition of pagan is often blurred with unbeliever. When I first told my still JW wife that I had attended my last meeting as we were returning from the district convention she replied that she didn't want to be married to a pagan. I hadn't done anything a pagan would do, I no longer believed what I listened to during those last 3 days, especially the overlapping generation nonsense. Being called a pagan hurt me more than if she had called me an unbeliever. My comeback was that it would be the only time I would overlook this threat to our marriage. The next time it would be the end. She never called me a pagan again and it's been over 9 years. We just agreed not to let religion get between us. It still does with meeting attendance but I fill the void with doing sports or other enjoyable activities on my own. Maybe one day she will come around...

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District convention to be held in assembly hall instead of stadium

by NikL in

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last night they announced that this summers district convention will be held at an assembly hall.. this is the first time i've seen this happen.

there are a couple of congregations in the same hall here and they aren't going to the same ones.

they are having multiple dates.. the hall they are going to use can only hold 1500 people max.. just wondering if maybe they just couldnt get anything bigger this year or if the falling numbers are playing a part in this decision.

NVR2L8

They've been doing that around Montreal and Quebec. With most of the program being videos you can do a repeat several weekends in a row. Maybe it's got more difficult to book large venues or maybe the WT not getting any deals or kickbacks from city authorities for holding large events.

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JW visitors addicted to JW.org

by NVR2L8 in

how things have changed!

a childhood friend and her husband stayed with us for a few days and, except for when we went sightseeing, they spent most of their time on their digital devices viewing and listening to content from jw.borg.

a few years back i recall a stearn warning against the use of such devices at an assembly.

NVR2L8

How things have changed! A childhood friend and her husband stayed with us for a few days and, except for when we went sightseeing, they spent most of their time on their digital devices viewing and listening to content from jw.bOrg. A few years back I recall a stearn warning against the use of such devices at an assembly. These devices would rob the user of time they could devote in the ministry. I guess the WT figured out how to use the addictiveness of these devices to get a stronger hold on their followers. The same goes for the use of recorded talks and videos....in the same manner as tele evangelists that the WT used to condemn. These people seem to be under a spell and anything one may say that challenges what they believe is automatically rejected without even a thought.

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Now Canada's Turn

by newsheep in

just got a phone call this morning from a very upset anointed brother.

he said he didn't believe me when i told him about the pedo problem and selling off of halls.

he said he was disgusted with the watchtower and had to go to a special meeting last night.

NVR2L8

New Sheep, you might be right....I don't get involved in JW conversations with my wife's visitors, so when I overheard that the Guelph congregation was getting 60 more publishers I assumed it resulted from the sale of the Elmira hall. It may indirectly be due to the new bounderies of territory. I wonder if they still have 2 halls in Guelph?