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  The Self Delusion

  by John_Mann in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we already are very familiar with the god delusion, but what to think about the property of being self aware is just another illusion?.

  buddhism asserts that and many people does not know that the very materialism (physicalism) asserts that too.. how can an illusion be self aware to be an illusion in itself?

  what would change in your life if you accept this?.

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  Intuition have several meanings.

  Define what you mean as intuition...
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  Studied with JW grandma for 3 years and went to meetings, I have now seen the light!

  by yogosans14 in

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  2. experiences

  im new here and im 17, going to turn 18 in 1 week.

  i studied with my gradma the bible teach book and went to meeting with her and other relatives (considering most my relatives are jw except my parents) and i believe in all of it because i never read the bible for myself.

  after reading the gospels i started noticing contradictions in the jw doctrine like when jesus said many would dine with the patriachs in the kingdom of heaven (yet only 144,000 jws can) which would seem odd considering the fact he adressed this to more then the apostles.

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  Welcome Yogo!

  Now the JW's have a Trinity too, three generations makes just one generation.
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  The Self Delusion

  by John_Mann in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we already are very familiar with the god delusion, but what to think about the property of being self aware is just another illusion?.

  buddhism asserts that and many people does not know that the very materialism (physicalism) asserts that too.. how can an illusion be self aware to be an illusion in itself?

  what would change in your life if you accept this?.

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  There's a lot of introverts in discussion forums. We like to handle ideas in a static and unsynchronized way. The (offline) social dynamics it's not a good environment to discuss deep thoughts.
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  Have you heard Judge Rutherford give a sermon?

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the phonograph records recorded by judge rutherford have been uploaded to the internet archives.. you can stream them and listen.. https://archive.org/search.php?query=creator%3a%28j.%20f.%20rutherford%29.

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  He had a confident and smooth voice. It doesn't match with his psycopath look.
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  The Self Delusion

  by John_Mann in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we already are very familiar with the god delusion, but what to think about the property of being self aware is just another illusion?.

  buddhism asserts that and many people does not know that the very materialism (physicalism) asserts that too.. how can an illusion be self aware to be an illusion in itself?

  what would change in your life if you accept this?.

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  John_Mann

  (I'm not saying that the boy is what gives us our sense of self, but our reasoning side is the self's spokesman. Because we do write, speak, articulate, the boy exists.)

  So does IBM Watson have a "boy" too?

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DywO4zksfXw

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLR1byL0U8M
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  The Self Delusion

  by John_Mann in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we already are very familiar with the god delusion, but what to think about the property of being self aware is just another illusion?.

  buddhism asserts that and many people does not know that the very materialism (physicalism) asserts that too.. how can an illusion be self aware to be an illusion in itself?

  what would change in your life if you accept this?.

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  wearewatchingyouman the programmer is a blind process, the darwinian algorithm. Schopenhauer talked about some kind of blind "Will" too.

  jgnat indeed we are a kind of verb and not a noun. But I'm not a thinking, not a writing and not a speaking. We only relate to the verb to be. But what is a verb without a noun? What is an object without a subject? Or a subject without objects?

  frankiespeakin yes I like Jung. Do you know about MBTI? I'm typed as an INTP. Very interesting stuff.

  punkofnice if there's some duality between object and subject, it's hard to say what is reality. But I tend to privilege the subjective view of reality.

  What could be the objective reality without a subject? But if the subject is a thing in itself why the hell it needs to manifest in an objective world? Reality seems to be more consistent if you take dreams as reality. I think we just dismiss dreams as being the main reality because we do not have free will in dreams. But even without free will the dreams can be very pleasant. That's makes me wonder why worry about the existence of free will. Dreams prove to us that we can be very happy without free will. But just imagine dreams with free will? Man, I think that's the true reality: free will conscious in a dream! LOL

  If someday (some says in 2045) we achieve to know how to upload our minds to a programmable substrate (computronium) we will be able to creat (hyper realistic) virtual environments to live. If the technological singularity is possible, we'll reach that reality. I hope so.
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  The Self Delusion

  by John_Mann in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we already are very familiar with the god delusion, but what to think about the property of being self aware is just another illusion?.

  buddhism asserts that and many people does not know that the very materialism (physicalism) asserts that too.. how can an illusion be self aware to be an illusion in itself?

  what would change in your life if you accept this?.

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  John_Mann

  But if there's no boy riding the elephant?

  My topic is about no self at all, we are in a sense just bio-robots that have a command to simulate a self that can experience some free will.

  The self is an illusion in same way of Jehovah being the creator of the universe.
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  The Self Delusion

  by John_Mann in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we already are very familiar with the god delusion, but what to think about the property of being self aware is just another illusion?.

  buddhism asserts that and many people does not know that the very materialism (physicalism) asserts that too.. how can an illusion be self aware to be an illusion in itself?

  what would change in your life if you accept this?.

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  John_Mann

  We already are very familiar with the God delusion, but what to think about the property of being self aware is just another illusion?

  Buddhism asserts that and many people does not know that the very materialism (physicalism) asserts that too.

  How can an illusion be self aware to be an illusion in itself? What would change in your life if you accept this?

  What you think about it?
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  Why do I bother to wake up in the morning?

  by punkofnice in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm not suicidal just fed up.. i did think of suicide (briefly), but as there is no painless way and it's not something i would willingly do just in case things would have been better the day after.

  i do have a slight grain of hope.. money problems.....problems at home (that's another matter with a son up court for something he is adamant he didn't do.

  first offence but the pigs police and the cps have got charges made.

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  I have a strange ability to feel good even when I'm through deep sadness.

  Being alive is what matters to me. Life will always bring interesting surprises.

  I'm a nihilist.
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  Mickey's epitaph, "I tried". What will yours be?

  by FatFreek 2005 in

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  mickey rooney passed,a sad loss.

  yes, the above is reported to be his epitaph.

  how about yours?.

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  John_Mann

  I'll be back.