Jesus is a myth so he can be whatever you want even non existent.
I think Jesus wears red sandals. Prove me wrong.
John_Mann
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To all secret faders who still believe in Christianity
by Chris Tann ini have been fading for six years now.
i only continue to do the minimum to keep my family together and to keep association with close friends.
i would like to hear your experience and how you are getting along.
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Do we know for sure what happens after death?
by Yondaime inchristian denominations say we go to heaven, witness say we stay alseep until ressurection.
quran says when we go we grt 72 virgins, unless we blow some people up.. .
i'm not really concerned with death atm, i'm not dead.
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We enter in the same state before birth.
But everything that ever existed is carved in the very fabric of spacetime.
It's possible (in the future) to a high advanced civilization to be able to scan the spacetime (possibly through a kind of quantum entanglement) and bring back the configuration (like a high definition 3D model) of everything including brains (in subatomic detail) and whatever.
If your entire body is scanned moments before your death it could be possible to create a perfect "clone" of you. The clone will be no different of you and will be no conscious in being a clone.
It's just like consider you're a different person after a general anesthesia or a deep dreamless sleep.
In the first person experience will be no time between your death and your "ressurrection". So it will appear as life after death.
The irony of this is that's scientifically possible unless we have an immortal soul. This conclusion is based on a materialistic view of the mind (like a software in hardware).
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Gog of Magog is still SATAN!!!
by ADJUSTMENTS induring the public discourse today the brobot talked about the gog of magog, and he stated that he was satan!!!
i had to ask my wife if i heard him correctly, and she said yes he said it is satan.... i couldnt wait to run up to the brobot after the meeting and inform him of he "new light" we just recieved yesterday!!!
when i approached him i asked him : what is gog of magog?
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Gog of Magoogle
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Can you help with a definition for Evolution?
by Fernando ini'm trying to pin down a definition for evolution, hopefully in plain english, and some questions have come to mind:.
is this a fool's errand?.
has evolution itself evolved?.
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John_Mann
Interaction of particles through space and time.
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They are eating every word they said...
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World powers come and go .Will China replace America as a first world power in the next decade ?
by smiddy inwhat are your thoughts about this topic , pros and cons.. smiddy.
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It will be the first one to reach the pole through economics rather than war.
China is an enigma wrapped into a mystery.
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John_Mann
This is a blatant lie!
Everybody knows if you gather the 7 dragon balls you can have anything you want too, ressurection included.
And if you get a bite from a vampire you becomes immortal too.
There are many ways one can get eternal life (depending what book you're reading).
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Where Are You on The Witno Scale?
by tresdecu in1 - still think it's the truth ...came to this site cause danger is your middle name.. 2 - concerned, smoething's amiss but still believe.
3 - 98% sure it's bs, but still go for / with family.
4 - anger / denial, inactive with minimal attendance (ie memorial, spec talk etc).
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7- Almost indifferent.
The WT have no power itself. The WT is just a human expression, even if we send every trace of WT to burn into sun, the collective human nature will find another way to produce the same thing WT already does. So with or without it the result is the same, you just can do something about you. You just can free yourself from this human trait (fanaticism).
Today I just like to keep update with the JW world because I use it as a small scale model of the world. I like to make predictions of a system (JW world) I know very well and use this skill to extrapolate into the real world scale. The human nature its the same even in a closed system (JW) or in an open one (real world).
The JW world its an interesting interdependent three-head system: JW doctrines - GB - Rank&File. It's amazing to watch these three working in a clunky way.
I think the next step will be to change the literal 144,000 to a symbolic interpretation. They just can't ignore that anymore. I have some wild predictions too like the end of restriction of women to be MS, elders and even GB members. And I can see they starting a JW University (I know it sounds crazy... but I have a gut feeling about this). Because the world tends to people be very specialized and feminism are becoming very strong.
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my first post! (long read sorry in advance)
by Letts Party inlong time lurker, first time poster here finally looking to get some things off my chest.
i've always been a very curious person with tons of questions about everything, and i also care deeply particularly about societal issues like social injustice, racism, and homophobia.
that, coupled with how boneheaded all the elders in my congregation are (except for one), led me to ask even more questions that led me to find ttatt.. .
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John_Mann
Welcome Letts Party!
You have the recurrent type of personality of the so called "apostates".
We are very inquisitive and honest to find the facts, wherever they may lead.
As you may know by now every religion (and their dogmas/doctrines) is very illogical. I'm an atheist myself, actually I'm more further than that because I'm a nihilist.
But in an ultimate sense I think religion have some purpose to people who need some moral breaks.
Nature hates wasting and the organized religion would not exist if it have no purpose (even an unknown one in the game of survival).
The reality is we (the conscious/thinking class) are a minority (even in JW.org land or in the real world). The vast majority of thinking people have left JW.org by now because the easy access to online information so you can expect to find just brainless drones inside the Tower. You better not harbor any hope to "preach" TTATT.
Most people (maybe more than 80%) just NEED to be told of what to do and the only system that does such thing (micro management in personal life based on a mystical authority) in free countries is organized religion.
I recommend you first to try to fade away from JW.org, you don't have to confront anyone just try to leave quietly and luckly you will keep some friends from there. You don't have to fight against religion, just fight to keep it in the right place into your life. JW.org is a very bad taste religion but some others have some true artistic value and beauty (like catholicism, buddhism, hinduism, etc..), if your wife needs religion in her life maybe you can consider bring her to a more healthy one.
Greetings from Brazil (international brotherhood. LOL)!!!
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What Happened to the Religion I Left in 1995?
by JoshJeffries injosh here, new to the board.
glad to know this site is here.. i would not be writing this if it were not 2014. i was a ministerial servant and regular pioneer who left the jehovahs witnesses back in 1995/96, around that time.
i left suddenly, didnt fade away, just left when something clicked one day in my head during the morning shower and made me realize this religion wasnt true.
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