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punkofnice
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What could it be?
by RolRod inin a previous thread i mentioned how the society took down the pyramid monument at rosemont cemetary in pittsburgh.
well now there's something being built on the same site.
i'm thinking a high watchtower monument.
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Can you list the positive points of being a JW as against the negative points of being a JW in your experience ?
by smiddy3 ini was a twenty y/old when i converted to the jw religion and was a problem drinker and i was a chain smoker .when i was baptized at a circuit assembly a year later , my conversion and change in lifestyle was given as an example of the effectiveness of incidental witnessing to the audience.. so i can point to the 2 positives becoming a jw .. 1.i gave up smoking.
2.i gave up drinking for a while ,but because i still had association with my wife`s and my family who were not jw`s ,i learnt to control my social drinking when i started again.. and i have been a responsible drinker ever since ,even though i left the religion 29 years ago.. the negative points of being a jw in my 32 years of being one ?
are far too great to list here .. love to hear your thoughts..
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punkofnice
The Jobots were right about 'man has dominated man to his injury', I give you the virus of unknown origin and the latest tranche of politicians, Presidents and Prime Ministers across the world. All utter filth only worthy of the gallows.
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How is the 'Cost of Living Crisis' affecting you?
by nicolaou inhere in the uk we've recently had the price cap on household energy bills raised by around £800 and there'll be another similar raise this autumn.. food prices are up, petrol is around £1.82 per litre - that's $10.37 per gallon for our american friends - and inflation is currently running at 9%.
business are being hit as ordinary folk prioritise their spending.
young folks are effectively priced out of the housing market and wage rises are not keeping pace.. mrs nic' and i are fortunate in that we're both in secure employment and with the kids moved out and mortgage paid off our outgoings are thankfully low.
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punkofnice
LUHE - I could count on one hand the number of MPs from those two parties whom I respect.
You had your hands cut off?
I often muse about how the Jobots were right about Politics and 'man dominating man to his injury'.
They are correct about this much at least.
So I'll use my vote to vote for someone else. It probably won't make much of an impact, but there you go ...
I get where you're coming from. I'm going to vote with my 2 fingers but not the Churchill way round.
NOTE: For my American chums, think- 'the bird', except we Brits use 2 fingers. (Repetition for emphasis?).
The Eton toffs have messed things up because 1, they're incompetent and 2, they don't care because they're doing well.
Look at old Wishy Washy Sunak's Missus minting it in from Amazon. Makes me wonder if we were locked down on purpose so that people like them and PPI shares Vallance could profit and to hell with the working class!?!?!
I'm almost convinced of it.
....and don't mention dinghies at Dover......
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How is the 'Cost of Living Crisis' affecting you?
by nicolaou inhere in the uk we've recently had the price cap on household energy bills raised by around £800 and there'll be another similar raise this autumn.. food prices are up, petrol is around £1.82 per litre - that's $10.37 per gallon for our american friends - and inflation is currently running at 9%.
business are being hit as ordinary folk prioritise their spending.
young folks are effectively priced out of the housing market and wage rises are not keeping pace.. mrs nic' and i are fortunate in that we're both in secure employment and with the kids moved out and mortgage paid off our outgoings are thankfully low.
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punkofnice
LUHE - it would help if the people in charge were competent and decent.
When we had a local election here recently. I didn't vote. I honestly could not bring myself to partake in this sham.
For the first time in years, I honestly could not find a political party to vote for. They're all rubbish.
The Conservatives have given up on Conservative values in favour of self serving.
Labour are a bloody joke with their posh imbecilic leader Beer Starmer Piles (protector of paedophiles and knee taker to the fraudulent BLM terrorists), who can't define what a woman is.
...and who are the Lib Dems these days? They seem a bit obscure.
No confidence in any of them. I couldn't even vote tactically.
At least by not voting I can't be blamed when the part I voted for messes up the economy again.
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How is the 'Cost of Living Crisis' affecting you?
by nicolaou inhere in the uk we've recently had the price cap on household energy bills raised by around £800 and there'll be another similar raise this autumn.. food prices are up, petrol is around £1.82 per litre - that's $10.37 per gallon for our american friends - and inflation is currently running at 9%.
business are being hit as ordinary folk prioritise their spending.
young folks are effectively priced out of the housing market and wage rises are not keeping pace.. mrs nic' and i are fortunate in that we're both in secure employment and with the kids moved out and mortgage paid off our outgoings are thankfully low.
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punkofnice
LUHE - But I won't be voting for them in 2024. They are a proper shit shower
They are not anything near Conservative.
Typical self serving Politicians that only pretend to care for the people for votes.
UK politicians are now as bad as American ones. I think we've hit Political nadir.
I also hate scum like 'Sir' Chris Whitty, 'Sir' Ian Vallance and that filthy pig Fergusson. I wish only horrible things for them. Despite what the media brainwashed everyone with, these self serving frauds DID NOT do a good job. I'd go so far as to say everything they did was 100% wrong. Yet that idiot Whitty gets a bloody knighthood. So we can get knighted for getting every danmed thing wrong now, can we?
I loathe the people in charge. All utter filth of the lowest order.
....and we. the working class have to pay for their lies, corruption and incompetence.
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How is the 'Cost of Living Crisis' affecting you?
by nicolaou inhere in the uk we've recently had the price cap on household energy bills raised by around £800 and there'll be another similar raise this autumn.. food prices are up, petrol is around £1.82 per litre - that's $10.37 per gallon for our american friends - and inflation is currently running at 9%.
business are being hit as ordinary folk prioritise their spending.
young folks are effectively priced out of the housing market and wage rises are not keeping pace.. mrs nic' and i are fortunate in that we're both in secure employment and with the kids moved out and mortgage paid off our outgoings are thankfully low.
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punkofnice
Isn't it a joy watching the prices rise, the people struggle apart from those filthy, disgusting Eton Toff Politicians and those rich scumbags in the Media.
I'd like to understand which parts of the rises are genuine price rises and which ones are artificial.
I've heard the 'virus of unknown origin' blamed (not the frauds like Twat Chris Whitty, Twat Captain leg over Fergusson and Twat Vallance who got it all wrong and buggered the economy), the Ukraine situation blamed. As Pontius said when he was a Pilot, "What is truth?"
I trust no one. I have a gut feeling that we're all being manipulated and controlled by fear and division. there is going to be a bigger divide between rich and poor, dark ages style.
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UFO's or Unidentified Aerial Fenomena....
by mikeflood inwhat do you guys think....the topic seems to being on fashion lately.
some in the borg told me one time "of course, they are for real, they could be angels, demons".. .
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punkofnice
The subject is intriguing.
I've seen stuff I can't explain in the sky but it doesn't follow that it had to be a UFO/UAP.
More evidence is required for Joe Public but I doubt we'll get anything at all.
Governments and Media bombard us with fiction and very rarely the actual truth.
I won't hold my breath.
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Interview with an apostate: Judgerussellford
by Judgerussellford ingreat grandma studies out of the children book.
are your parents / family jws?.
my grandma, her son and some cousins and aunts/uncles on that side yes.
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punkofnice
Tell us a little about yourself and your family.
.My Dad was conned into being a Jobot when his life fell apart.
Were you a born in or a convert?
.Born in, sadly.
Are your parents / family JWs?
.Mum is still officially a Jobot. My step sister is officially a Jobot….beyond that, I lost touch.
How many generations have been JWs?
.2
Did you hold any position in the WTS? (MS, Elder etc...)
.MS then Elder
Did you *really* believe in the bible, in spirits (angels, demons)?
.When I was a fully hypnotised Jobot, yes.
Did you get baptised? When and why?
.Yes. 1973 because I wanted to get girlfriends in the Jobot world.
What was the initial trigger that made you start questioning things?
.When I was an Elder, the 7 day appeal period against ‘Jehovah’s™ infallible decision for Judicial comitees.
Where did you find information? Internet sites? Books?
.Apostate™ leaflets at first. Then the internet.
How difficult or painful was the process of leaving?
.Excruciating. It tore me apart. Then the wife left because the Elders (one who wanted to have sex with her, at least), told her she must leave me and the kids.
Was it a big dramatic exit or a careful quiet fade?
Both. I just said I wasn’t going back to meetings and the Jobots made it dramatic.
Did you convince anyone else to leave with you?
.Nope.
How were your family relations affected by your decision?
.See above. The wife left and smote the family asunder. It was dreadful.
Were you or are you still being shunned by those who didn't leave?
.Probably. I don’t much care now. I never see them.
How long have you now been out?
13 years.
Was there anything you looked forward to doing when you left?
True religion. What a pratt I was!!
What are you most proud of achieving since you left?
Meh..Nothing. It’s all been a waste of time. Perhaps that I play in one of the top local rock bands in this area?
Is there anything you miss about life in the congregation?
Sleeping at CONventions.
Red pill or blue pill? Do you regret waking up to reality at all?
Both but at least I’m authentic even if I’m not getting my leg over anymore
Did you become an atheist or transfer your faith elsewhere?
All over the place with it. Still can’t settle.
How do you now feel about religion in general?
It’s good in some ways in the sense of community but dangerous in a tribal sense.
Do you feel any guilt celebrating xmas or birthdays or doing any other JW "no-no"s?
.I still don’t really celebrate them. More out of habit than choice
Have you attended any face-to-face meetups of ex-JWs?
.Yes. A few. Some on here have met me and I them,
Describe your circle of friends - mostly other ex-JWs or regular people?
.No circle of friends. I’m pretty much a loner apart from a couple of chaps in the band I play in.
Do you tell people about your JW past?
It rarely if ever comes up. Mostly, no.
Do you feel animosity or pity toward current JWs?
I feel nothing.
How do you respond to witnesses when they call at your door?
I’m a ‘do not call’.
Storm the barricades or tend to the wounded? (do you favor activism or support)
You spelled ‘favour’ wrong. Ho ho ho. I don’t do anything concerned with Jobots anymore.
What do you think is the most effective approach to reaching people still in?
.I neither know nor care anymore. But I’d say, let them be. If they want to waste their time giving money to Watchtower™ so that TOMO the turd can remain drunk and protect paedophiles, that’s up to them.
Do you think the WTS can or should be destroyed, will continue on as-is or grow / change?
.It doesn’t matter what I think. There are so many people fooled by it that it’ll continue to provide little boys and booze for the Governing body to abuse
How has your life been impacted by your JW past?
.It’s a total and utter wasteland
Are there things in your life you blame the WTS for?
.Yes. I never got to shag loads of women
JW upbringing - a protection or a curse?
.Absolute curse of the lowest order
How do you fill your time now it's not filled with meetings and field service?
.I don’t. I spend time with the grand kids. I gig with a rock band. But it all feels so hollow
Do you still have an interest in JW beliefs and doctrines?
.Not an interest. I just laugh and sneer at them
How much of your time is still spent on JW related matters?
.Only when I check in here for fun
What do you think of the ex-JW community?
.They’re just people. I don’t see it as a ‘community’. Just a bunch of people that might talk once in a blue moon
Do you see yourself still being associated with the ex-JW community in 5 or 10 years time?
.I’ll probably look in here from time to time but above that, bugger all, really
Do you fear the future?
.No.
What advice would you give to anyone starting the journey of leaving the WTS?
.Keep a low profile and don’t jump from one load of sh1t to another. Stay calm and don’t get caught up in anything. It’s all just people attention seeking the same as celebrities and politicians
What would you change in your life if you could go back and talk to yourself?
.Shag loads of women
Do you have any regrets about life since you left?
.I don’t really feel I have a life I did
Can we read your life-story anywhere? (links to online or books)
I did have a book on Amazon but I deleted it when I lost interest in all things Jobot. Here is about the only place left where my stories are
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Unpopular opinion
by Judgerussellford inso i've asked this question to witnesses in the past (super no no question to ask by the way but hilarious responses) to bosses and coworkers, and random people of different faiths and i'm curious to know how mixed of a response this community will give.
bible believers or not your oppinion is very welcome.
technically according to scripture we are gods sons.
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punkofnice
For me, I think that it's all fiction. when we die, that's it. We cease to be. No heaven and no hell. No God and no Devil.
All we have is ourselves and we waste too much time on fiction. Be it the News media, it's all fiction. Be it religion, it's all fiction.
We're being conned on a grand scale. Life isn't fair.
There is no purpose. We like to think there is but there really can't be if you look at it all.
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Simple Question Re 1914
by Slidin Fast inwt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!
and the end times.
a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?
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punkofnice
If that drunken paedophile protecting despot, TOMO the turd says it is so, then it is so, whether it makes sense or not.
Yes. It's Orwellian but that's how the GovBod (Piss be upon them), roll.