I say, ol' bean. What a long thread. Far too long for me to read.
Smiddy summed it up for me
I`m here out of the cult and that`s all that matters
Here, here!
sometimes jws wonder if the wt/jw is not the truth, 'then where else are we to go?
' i say 'why not atheistic/scientific philosophical naturalism and why not a secular philosophy which teaches a way of life?
' what do you folks say?.
I say, ol' bean. What a long thread. Far too long for me to read.
Smiddy summed it up for me
I`m here out of the cult and that`s all that matters
Here, here!
the watchtower—study edition | march 2022. study article 12. do you see what zechariah saw?.
11. what challenges do some of jehovah’s worshippers face today?.
11 change is challenging for many of us.
when we look at things from Jehovah’s perspective.
Oh, great. So now I've got to think like an imaginary, narcissistic sky bully.
He is accomplishing great things today,
Where? Getting whiskey for drunken paedophile protector in chief, TOMO3rd?
and we have the unique privilege of being his fellow workers.
and we have the unique privilege of being robbed by the WBT$ so that drunken TOMO3rd can look after his precious pederasts.
why is it important to some that god only have one visible organization to represent him on earth?
why is it important to jehovah's witnesses that people recognize their organization as such?
what makes a witness more moral or righteous or save-worthy if they accept that it is his one and only organization?
Zane - Most JW's would look up into his bright and shinning face and say: "But you are not enough! We want a group of men to read the Bible for us and provide their own writings and interpretations for us to obey."
There'd be those that would cry out to 'Jehovah(tm)' because they'd think it was a Demon. You know, auld clootie, lucy fear or old nick from Stilton.
Then, they'd go and burn all their second hand items.....but not the second hand car.
i am posting this thread because i've seen some people ask "who are the freemasons?
back a few years ago, i had never heard of the masons before.. then, i had some masons involved in my life, so i did a lot of research into them (at the library, on the internet, in books, testimony by former masons, etc.)..
i will start a thread soon and post my beliefs and opinions on freemasonry.. here are a few things i have found in my research.. in a "well-ordered" masonic lodge, masons are allowed to believe in any god they want to, except jesus christ.. in fact, in a "well-ordered" masonic lodge, the name jesus christ should not even be mentioned.. that makes one wonder, doesn't it?.
PPete - This stuff is like cocaine to conspiracy theorists.
I couldn't have put it better myself.
It's all nonsense. Masons are just blokes that like to be in a special club. They do charity work. I've been involved with Masons and it's all fairly humdrum.
Once you realise that there is no god or devil, the rest is easy. It's just old geezers having a meeting, a fag and a bevvy.
according to the bible, there was dissention in heaven or god’s kingdom.
in god’s own courtyard, the factors existed for such, that perfect creations morphed into gods’ opposition, even in the presence of the universal creator.
accordingly, they are still at it, hell bent on destroying all.. here is my question; how is it that the creation thinks they can win a war with the universal creator?
Another option is that it's all just fiction. Poorly written fiction......and people have taken it all too seriously. Here we are, with people believing all sorts of nonsense.
This world could have been so much better. But, no! Tribal meat sacks.
did you know, (said with a michael caine voice) that many of the uk's pedestrian crossing consoles - upon which you find the button to press in order to cross - actually have a concealed button which is located underneath the console and out of sight!.
when the 'green man' lights up, the hidden button then rotates, letting people who are blind and deaf have a physical alert to know that it's now safe to cross the road..
Yes. My kids used to twiddle the button back in the day.
i’ve been visiting this site for quite a long time, although i rarely posted.
i would like to thank simon and all the participants, for the valuable information and support that is available here, for anyone searching about the jw organization.. just a brief introduction of myself: i live in europe (english is not my native language, so please bear with any mistakes i make).
i was born in a jw family and i’m still in the organization, but i’ve been “on the fence” about leaving the organization for quite a long time.
NL - So I would first like to ask if anyone who was raised as a jw and left the organization, would like to share how easy or difficult this transition was.
Because I was an Elder(tm), the knives were out for me because I didn't do the sensible thing and fade, I announced that I thought it was all a pile of lies from a big corporation posing as a religion. The Elders(tm) instructed my wife to leave me which destroyed our family, leaving me as a single parent coping with 2 boys.
It was hell and I'm still feeling the blows.
The only way out is to fade away. A long path.
You'll never be totally free of the greedy corporation but you can at least get some wiggle room.
The Governing Body of Jehovah's witnesses(tm) are greedy, drunken, disgusting pederast lovers that thirst for power and riches. If evil exists they are wallowing in it. I loathe them with every fibre of my being but know that there will never be justice. There just isn't any power in the universe that will tip the balance in my favour. Those with money rule the day.
Rant over. As you were!
will the great tribulation hurt individuals more than what job, jesus, roman punishment, naz&i germany, hiroshima, jail, capital punishment, disease, pain, terror, horror, soldier in the battlefield or some terrible pain people experience this very moment?
how worse can pain and suffering get.
it is very common.
FM - Naz&i.
Naz and I? Who is Naz?
Not referring to Alice Cooper's old band are we?
jw broadcasting.
'' this is garlic powder.
the son of adam tainted our pure relationship with jehovah.
....and they're bunging good food into the bin ('trash' if you're over the other side of the Atlantic), when people go hungry.
I remember when I volunteered to work at a local soup kitchen after I left the JW cult, my Missus (who hadn't been told by the Elders(tm) to leave me at that point), said, 'those people don't need food; they need the Watchtower!'
That's the kind of mentality you're dealing with. They're all bloody bonkers.
probably, the greatest advocacy for the gospels is the jw publication: the greatest man that ever lived.
it convinced me.. everything else that the bible says about the resurrection and eternal life logically follows.. the testimony of a “witness” in court matters only if it is observation not commentary ( expert witness is also commentary): what did you see, what did you hear, what is the magnitude of your measurement.
not, are you convinced; that is only belief.
Before I consider the question, please prove that Jesus actually existed with evidence outside of the Bible.