supposedly, god jehovah, el , or whatever else he may have been called many thousands of years ago, or so the storys goes ,dealt with humans on a regular basis communicating with them for either good or bad.according to how they pleased him or displeased him.. so the bible record says.. how is it that god , jehovah or whatever other name you want to call him has not communicated with humans on any level for the past 2000 years ???.
in this scientific ,technological age ,wouldn`t you think this would be the time he would communicate with the potential dangers we face in potentially destroying ourselves and ruining the planets wildlife unless he interveined ?.
that`s if you even beleive that such a god actually exists .. and if he does why so silent in this day and age,?.
winger - It's such a simple solution....
God is either indifferent, incompetent or doesn't exist.
...and doesn't exist despite hoodwinked people trying to believe all that Bible nonsense into existence. To think, I used to believe all that stuff until I started to be honest and decide that an inconvenient truth is better than wilful ignorance.
on their website in the video "organizational accomplishments" watchtower devotes this segment to praising the superiority of the new world translation.
about half way through, david splane relates the reason for a change in wording from the old 1984 nwt reference bible to the 2013 revised nwt.
he said this was because of the recent discovery of an older manuscript that contained the greek word for overseer that was unavailable when the reference bible was being compiled.
David Splane relates the reason for a change in wording
David (Overlapping(TM)) Splane will fail to admit they're just mucking about with words to fit their own money making narrative. Rather than change their system to fit the Bible, they do it the other way around. They know what they're doing, too.
Could this be The fallacy of equivocation?
Glad I'm out of the cult.
on halloween night, police arrested two people who were dressed up individually as a battery and a firework rocket.
they charged one and let the other off.. police in london are investigating the theft of dogs throughout the city.. they don't have any leads.. i found a large box filled with kodak 35 mm camera film, and handed it in to the police.. they said they'd let me know if there were any developments.. police recovered a valuable stolen microscope.. they say they're looking into it.. yorkshire police can't establish what's wrong with the sat-navs in their new fleet of squad cars.. they're still looking for leeds.. police are investigating the theft of a perpetual motion device.
they say it's an ongoing inquiry.. the old ones are the best!
The Police are looking into the theft of toilet seats.
They have nothing to go on.
A prison van crashed into a cement mixer.
The pigs police are looking for a bunch of hardened criminals.
how much of the preaching hours in yearly report you think are real?
they always have high numbers preaching hours.
probably increase every decade.
How much of the preaching hours in yearly report you think are real?
Not all that much. I all depends how you 'count time(tm)'.
One old geezer went out door knocking for an hour but because it was raining, he said, 'I've made an effort. I'll count this as 2 hours.'
Another deceased 'sister(tm)' used to put a report in for her son, an hour a month, despite him having buggered off years ago.
It's like everything else in life...ALL FAKE and FICTION!
supposedly, god jehovah, el , or whatever else he may have been called many thousands of years ago, or so the storys goes ,dealt with humans on a regular basis communicating with them for either good or bad.according to how they pleased him or displeased him.. so the bible record says.. how is it that god , jehovah or whatever other name you want to call him has not communicated with humans on any level for the past 2000 years ???.
in this scientific ,technological age ,wouldn`t you think this would be the time he would communicate with the potential dangers we face in potentially destroying ourselves and ruining the planets wildlife unless he interveined ?.
that`s if you even beleive that such a god actually exists .. and if he does why so silent in this day and age,?.
I have noticed that with the Bible (which I do not believe is inspired but used as if it was), the further you go back in time, the weirder the stories are. As if by Chinese whispers.
To be clear, I am not saying I believe in the time scale as a reality because it's all without evidence.
I used to believe but now that I've taken stock, I am ashamed I ever did.
God doesn't speak today because he never spoke in the past. It's all an illusion that has brought the Churches money and power.
Believe this if you wish, but why?
sometimes jws wonder if the wt/jw is not the truth, 'then where else are we to go?
' i say 'why not atheistic/scientific philosophical naturalism and why not a secular philosophy which teaches a way of life?
' what do you folks say?.
I say, ol' bean. What a long thread. Far too long for me to read.
Smiddy summed it up for me
I`m here out of the cult and that`s all that matters
Here, here!
the watchtower—study edition | march 2022. study article 12. do you see what zechariah saw?.
11. what challenges do some of jehovah’s worshippers face today?.
11 change is challenging for many of us.
when we look at things from Jehovah’s perspective.
Oh, great. So now I've got to think like an imaginary, narcissistic sky bully.
He is accomplishing great things today,
Where? Getting whiskey for drunken paedophile protector in chief, TOMO3rd?
and we have the unique privilege of being his fellow workers.
and we have the unique privilege of being robbed by the WBT$ so that drunken TOMO3rd can look after his precious pederasts.
why is it important to some that god only have one visible organization to represent him on earth?
why is it important to jehovah's witnesses that people recognize their organization as such?
what makes a witness more moral or righteous or save-worthy if they accept that it is his one and only organization?
Zane - Most JW's would look up into his bright and shinning face and say: "But you are not enough! We want a group of men to read the Bible for us and provide their own writings and interpretations for us to obey."
There'd be those that would cry out to 'Jehovah(tm)' because they'd think it was a Demon. You know, auld clootie, lucy fear or old nick from Stilton.
Then, they'd go and burn all their second hand items.....but not the second hand car.
i am posting this thread because i've seen some people ask "who are the freemasons?
back a few years ago, i had never heard of the masons before.. then, i had some masons involved in my life, so i did a lot of research into them (at the library, on the internet, in books, testimony by former masons, etc.)..
i will start a thread soon and post my beliefs and opinions on freemasonry.. here are a few things i have found in my research.. in a "well-ordered" masonic lodge, masons are allowed to believe in any god they want to, except jesus christ.. in fact, in a "well-ordered" masonic lodge, the name jesus christ should not even be mentioned.. that makes one wonder, doesn't it?.
PPete - This stuff is like cocaine to conspiracy theorists.
I couldn't have put it better myself.
It's all nonsense. Masons are just blokes that like to be in a special club. They do charity work. I've been involved with Masons and it's all fairly humdrum.
Once you realise that there is no god or devil, the rest is easy. It's just old geezers having a meeting, a fag and a bevvy.
according to the bible, there was dissention in heaven or god’s kingdom.
in god’s own courtyard, the factors existed for such, that perfect creations morphed into gods’ opposition, even in the presence of the universal creator.
accordingly, they are still at it, hell bent on destroying all.. here is my question; how is it that the creation thinks they can win a war with the universal creator?
Another option is that it's all just fiction. Poorly written fiction......and people have taken it all too seriously. Here we are, with people believing all sorts of nonsense.
This world could have been so much better. But, no! Tribal meat sacks.
