i wonder how many are like me staying pimo for the great association and gathering etc.
also find it very interesting having a front row seat watching the collapse of borg.. im not wasting any more time or money on anything i don’t want to do like preaching and mostly just go on zoom .
there is nothing i want to do that would be considered disfellowshiping sin, i’m married and want to live by bible principles but i have serious doubts that the gb were chosen by god and are his one and only spokesmen on earth.
Indy - this is because most people are in doubt big time if it was all lies
I'm interested in where you get 'most' from.
Not having a go, but why do you say 'most'?
'Most' of the people I know, don't give a monkeys. We're all trying to schlep along the best we can.
i wonder how many are like me staying pimo for the great association and gathering etc.
also find it very interesting having a front row seat watching the collapse of borg.. im not wasting any more time or money on anything i don’t want to do like preaching and mostly just go on zoom .
there is nothing i want to do that would be considered disfellowshiping sin, i’m married and want to live by bible principles but i have serious doubts that the gb were chosen by god and are his one and only spokesmen on earth.
indy - you could say this about most things the so called experts tell us.
I do quite a lot.
Personally I’m the type who wants to get to the bottom of lies
What's the point? It makes no difference in our lives.
I go to work. Pay the bills. Provide necessities. For me at least, and it's not everyone....No amount of bothering if man went to the moon or not is in the slightest bit helpful.
i wonder how many are like me staying pimo for the great association and gathering etc.
also find it very interesting having a front row seat watching the collapse of borg.. im not wasting any more time or money on anything i don’t want to do like preaching and mostly just go on zoom .
there is nothing i want to do that would be considered disfellowshiping sin, i’m married and want to live by bible principles but i have serious doubts that the gb were chosen by god and are his one and only spokesmen on earth.
Stan - I think there is a lot to prove if one claims the Bible is the word of God. Just because it's the common belief in your area, doesn't make it true.
Like you, I'm a bit too long in the tooth to believe this or that on faith alone. I wasn't there at the start and neither was anyone else I know.
I accept what is around me and what there is evidence for.
Whether, man went to the moon or not, makes no difference to my life.
As Noel Coward wrote, I paraphrase, 'Oh, well. You live and learn. And then in the end, you die and forget it all.'
sadly, jehovah's witnesses depend on their religion to save them, and the bible does not point to religion as a saving point for salvation.. the video message below shows from the bible that for salvation, jesus paid it all for you.. are you saved?.
To convince me, would be a long road.
1st, Prove the Jesus existed. Then you have to prove it was the Bible Jesus. After that, you have to prove that God even exists even if a 'Bible Jesus' claimed thus.
The problem as I see is, that people have been conned into believing that the Bible is true as the starting point. The starting point should be to ask if the Bible is even credible, not just because of our feelings, but facts.
Why is the Bible credible but the Quran isn't?
You've been conned by men in silly hats making big claims. Funny how they have amassed fortune from such claims.
It's all a big grift. I'd like to be proven wrong, but there it is.
i was out on the ministry(tm) in the 1980's when i was pie-on-earring.
i was only a lowly publisher(tm) being coached by a rather odd elder(tm).. one of the publications(tm) had recently mentioned japan and the growth(tm) of jws there.. the elder(tm), brother(tm) i was with offered the magazines(tm) to the householder(tm).. then he stated, 'there are (gave the reported numbers at the time.
i can't remember the number he stated), jehovah's witnesses(tm) in japan.'.
Fooly - I was never pushy. What's the point? It just annoys people.
I have met a wide range of 'zealous(tm)' JWs over the years. Most were a bit eccentric....to say the least.
“supplies of offensive weapons to the kyiv regime would lead to a global catastrophe,” state duma chairman vyacheslav volodin said.
“if washington and nato supply weapons that would be used for striking peaceful cities and making attempts to seize our territory as they threaten to do, it would trigger a retaliation with more powerful weapons.”.
what is russia implying?
I don't think we in the West really get the Russian view of life, it's value or the power of Russian propaganda. The people are fed from the State broadcasting, a bit like the very biased propaganda and lies from the BBC, CNN or Fox.
If Pooh Tin is backed into a corner, I don't think it'll take much for him to press the big red button. I don't think he'll have much opposition.
War won't solve this. Negotiation might lead to an uneasy peace.
Just my 2 penneth. But what would I know?
i was out on the ministry(tm) in the 1980's when i was pie-on-earring.
i was only a lowly publisher(tm) being coached by a rather odd elder(tm).. one of the publications(tm) had recently mentioned japan and the growth(tm) of jws there.. the elder(tm), brother(tm) i was with offered the magazines(tm) to the householder(tm).. then he stated, 'there are (gave the reported numbers at the time.
i can't remember the number he stated), jehovah's witnesses(tm) in japan.'.
The same Elder(tm) was on the Platform(tm) and started an item,
'I'm a man and so is my wife.....'
He paused then continued,
'Who doesn't like to see cruelty to animals....................Why are you laughing Brothers?'
i was out on the ministry(tm) in the 1980's when i was pie-on-earring.
i was only a lowly publisher(tm) being coached by a rather odd elder(tm).. one of the publications(tm) had recently mentioned japan and the growth(tm) of jws there.. the elder(tm), brother(tm) i was with offered the magazines(tm) to the householder(tm).. then he stated, 'there are (gave the reported numbers at the time.
i can't remember the number he stated), jehovah's witnesses(tm) in japan.'.
Nuffy - Brilliant to hear now. I bet at the time it was a case of, 'ground swallow me up, now!'
i was out on the ministry(tm) in the 1980's when i was pie-on-earring.
i was only a lowly publisher(tm) being coached by a rather odd elder(tm).. one of the publications(tm) had recently mentioned japan and the growth(tm) of jws there.. the elder(tm), brother(tm) i was with offered the magazines(tm) to the householder(tm).. then he stated, 'there are (gave the reported numbers at the time.
i can't remember the number he stated), jehovah's witnesses(tm) in japan.'.
Tonus - I think I had many moments like that. A biker came to the door once and said, 'I'm a Satanist.'
I was willing to talk to him about Iron Maiden and such delights but the Brother(tm) I was with said, 'Well, thank you goodbye.' He proceeded to almost run from the block of flats. He told me how frightened he was and we mustn't get mixed up with these people.
I said, 'You do know he was having you on, don't you?!'
Oh, I have other stories. I left the JWs with the over riding thought that most of them were didlow.
99% were vaccinated.. .
https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/studionewsreports/docid-702021091_1_video.
correction, there is no such thing as a bethel family, bethel hotel, yes, there always been bethelites coming and going.
Indy - it’s obvious that the shots killed most of the older older ones and many of the not so old older ones died due to the shots
Slidin Fast has a point here.
We might be leaning toward our own confirmation bias about the jabberoo, if we're not too careful.
I think, for us (at least me), to consider what you say seriously, I'd need to know numbers, reported causes of death. Over what period? How do we know they were all jabbed? In the case of old folk, they pop their clogs all the time. Why would we think the jab have terminated them sooner?
Or to put it simply....as Slidin rather rapidly said:
quote your evidence
