i wonder how many are like me staying pimo for the great association and gathering etc.
also find it very interesting having a front row seat watching the collapse of borg.. im not wasting any more time or money on anything i don’t want to do like preaching and mostly just go on zoom .
there is nothing i want to do that would be considered disfellowshiping sin, i’m married and want to live by bible principles but i have serious doubts that the gb were chosen by god and are his one and only spokesmen on earth.
The problem with conspiracy stuff is that it is like having 'accurate knowledge(tm)' that JWs think they have.
It makes one feel special and warm inside that one knows stuff other people don't.
This is what I meant about jumping from one crazy cult to another level of cultishness.
I think you need to stop and take a breather, indy....before you go didlow.
i was out on the ministry(tm) in the 1980's when i was pie-on-earring.
i was only a lowly publisher(tm) being coached by a rather odd elder(tm).. one of the publications(tm) had recently mentioned japan and the growth(tm) of jws there.. the elder(tm), brother(tm) i was with offered the magazines(tm) to the householder(tm).. then he stated, 'there are (gave the reported numbers at the time.
i can't remember the number he stated), jehovah's witnesses(tm) in japan.'.
Ding - a foot-in-the-door JW
I've met a few of those. One claimed to be 'anointed(tm)', which I now think simply means 'bonkers'.
i wonder how many are like me staying pimo for the great association and gathering etc.
also find it very interesting having a front row seat watching the collapse of borg.. im not wasting any more time or money on anything i don’t want to do like preaching and mostly just go on zoom .
there is nothing i want to do that would be considered disfellowshiping sin, i’m married and want to live by bible principles but i have serious doubts that the gb were chosen by god and are his one and only spokesmen on earth.
Substitute the word 'apathetic' to 'sceptical' or just 'to darned busy making ends meet'.
I think you need time to stop and breathe.
The JW mind-set is geared up to make you believe in something bigger or you're doomed. Give yourself permission to stop doing that to yourself.
If there is a god, it knows where to find you.
If there is a truth about Life, the universe and everything, we'll probably never know. That's the reality of it.
Take a breather before it sends you didlow.
You need to be careful that you don't jump from one bonkers cult into another.
i wonder how many are like me staying pimo for the great association and gathering etc.
also find it very interesting having a front row seat watching the collapse of borg.. im not wasting any more time or money on anything i don’t want to do like preaching and mostly just go on zoom .
there is nothing i want to do that would be considered disfellowshiping sin, i’m married and want to live by bible principles but i have serious doubts that the gb were chosen by god and are his one and only spokesmen on earth.
Indy - this is because most people are in doubt big time if it was all lies
I'm interested in where you get 'most' from.
Not having a go, but why do you say 'most'?
'Most' of the people I know, don't give a monkeys. We're all trying to schlep along the best we can.
i wonder how many are like me staying pimo for the great association and gathering etc.
also find it very interesting having a front row seat watching the collapse of borg.. im not wasting any more time or money on anything i don’t want to do like preaching and mostly just go on zoom .
there is nothing i want to do that would be considered disfellowshiping sin, i’m married and want to live by bible principles but i have serious doubts that the gb were chosen by god and are his one and only spokesmen on earth.
indy - you could say this about most things the so called experts tell us.
I do quite a lot.
Personally I’m the type who wants to get to the bottom of lies
What's the point? It makes no difference in our lives.
I go to work. Pay the bills. Provide necessities. For me at least, and it's not everyone....No amount of bothering if man went to the moon or not is in the slightest bit helpful.
i wonder how many are like me staying pimo for the great association and gathering etc.
also find it very interesting having a front row seat watching the collapse of borg.. im not wasting any more time or money on anything i don’t want to do like preaching and mostly just go on zoom .
there is nothing i want to do that would be considered disfellowshiping sin, i’m married and want to live by bible principles but i have serious doubts that the gb were chosen by god and are his one and only spokesmen on earth.
Stan - I think there is a lot to prove if one claims the Bible is the word of God. Just because it's the common belief in your area, doesn't make it true.
Like you, I'm a bit too long in the tooth to believe this or that on faith alone. I wasn't there at the start and neither was anyone else I know.
I accept what is around me and what there is evidence for.
Whether, man went to the moon or not, makes no difference to my life.
As Noel Coward wrote, I paraphrase, 'Oh, well. You live and learn. And then in the end, you die and forget it all.'
sadly, jehovah's witnesses depend on their religion to save them, and the bible does not point to religion as a saving point for salvation.. the video message below shows from the bible that for salvation, jesus paid it all for you.. are you saved?.
To convince me, would be a long road.
1st, Prove the Jesus existed. Then you have to prove it was the Bible Jesus. After that, you have to prove that God even exists even if a 'Bible Jesus' claimed thus.
The problem as I see is, that people have been conned into believing that the Bible is true as the starting point. The starting point should be to ask if the Bible is even credible, not just because of our feelings, but facts.
Why is the Bible credible but the Quran isn't?
You've been conned by men in silly hats making big claims. Funny how they have amassed fortune from such claims.
It's all a big grift. I'd like to be proven wrong, but there it is.
i was out on the ministry(tm) in the 1980's when i was pie-on-earring.
i was only a lowly publisher(tm) being coached by a rather odd elder(tm).. one of the publications(tm) had recently mentioned japan and the growth(tm) of jws there.. the elder(tm), brother(tm) i was with offered the magazines(tm) to the householder(tm).. then he stated, 'there are (gave the reported numbers at the time.
i can't remember the number he stated), jehovah's witnesses(tm) in japan.'.
Fooly - I was never pushy. What's the point? It just annoys people.
I have met a wide range of 'zealous(tm)' JWs over the years. Most were a bit eccentric....to say the least.
“supplies of offensive weapons to the kyiv regime would lead to a global catastrophe,” state duma chairman vyacheslav volodin said.
“if washington and nato supply weapons that would be used for striking peaceful cities and making attempts to seize our territory as they threaten to do, it would trigger a retaliation with more powerful weapons.”.
what is russia implying?
I don't think we in the West really get the Russian view of life, it's value or the power of Russian propaganda. The people are fed from the State broadcasting, a bit like the very biased propaganda and lies from the BBC, CNN or Fox.
If Pooh Tin is backed into a corner, I don't think it'll take much for him to press the big red button. I don't think he'll have much opposition.
War won't solve this. Negotiation might lead to an uneasy peace.
Just my 2 penneth. But what would I know?
i was out on the ministry(tm) in the 1980's when i was pie-on-earring.
i was only a lowly publisher(tm) being coached by a rather odd elder(tm).. one of the publications(tm) had recently mentioned japan and the growth(tm) of jws there.. the elder(tm), brother(tm) i was with offered the magazines(tm) to the householder(tm).. then he stated, 'there are (gave the reported numbers at the time.
i can't remember the number he stated), jehovah's witnesses(tm) in japan.'.
The same Elder(tm) was on the Platform(tm) and started an item,
'I'm a man and so is my wife.....'
He paused then continued,
'Who doesn't like to see cruelty to animals....................Why are you laughing Brothers?'
