Posts by punkofnice

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To All Those Keen To Tell Us About Their Beliefs

by Simon in

we seem to have had an influx of religiots - the people who want to tell us all about how we / the wts / whoever are wrong, wrong, wrong about everything and how right they are.

they obviously have special insight, or voices (probably voices, right?

) telling them the real truth.. as proof, there is inevitably a wall of random scripture references and quotes.. sorry, but we're not here for that.

punkofnice

If you got 1000 theologians discussing Bible stuff, they'd be disagreeing on stuff.

That someone says such and such a scripture means 'this'. What arrogant nonsense.

It always amuses me how there is a propensity to see the 'end time' as relevant to our lifetime.

The 'anti-christ(tm)' just happens to be someone/thing we know but all different opinions.

Tonus is correct in saying scriptures can be used in certain circumstances.

However, I am not here to be lectured by religious zealots that conclude things using out of context scriptures based on their own dimwitted interpretations.

I'll make up my own mind, thanks.

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Biden running in 2024 🤣

by LoveUniHateExams in

i've filed this under news and world events, although i could've posted it under entertainment, lol.

apparently, joe biden will be seeking re-election for another term in the white house.. this, despite a recent poll showing that 70% of people don't want him to run again.. biden just has to be the worst president i've seen.

his gaffes, over-relience on a prompter, and, more than any other president, his refusal to answer journalists' questions, all go to make him top of the list in terms of bad presidents.. it will certainly provide entertainment, if nothing else..

punkofnice

All this is part of the fantasy show of Politics.

Whilst we focus on it with our tribal lenses in, we'll never be free of the lie that is encapsulated within the media. Never be free to see the world as it really is but stuck perpetually in a tribal quagmire of struggle before death.

It's all a sham but sadly these bar stewards ruin our lives and we don't really have a say in it.

I loathe politicians.

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JWs don't consider older WT as revelant

by enoughisenough in

i am relating this happening.

i shared some thoughts from the 1989 question from readers concerning christ being mediator between god and man ( the wt spinning that he isn't ) and also the paragraph in that same article that plainly says: clearly, then the new covenant is not a loose arrangement open to all mankind.

it is a carefully arranged legal provision involving god and anointed christians.

punkofnice

the older magazines didn't count because apostates had at one time infiltrated the society and they had to be cleaned out

Looks like Jehovah's Chariot(tm), really isn't road worthy.

The mental gymnastics the Jobots do to justify their fake religion is stunning.

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Miserable week ahead for witness kids in England-The Coronation

by Mit123 in

i feel sorry for witness kids this week.

schools going crazy with the coronation in england.

witness won’t be allowed to participate in a harmless tradition that whatever you think of the monarchy will be a lot of fun..

punkofnice

The Coronation makes me feel miserable anyway...and I'm not a Jobot school kid.

I'm neither Monarchist nor Republican but feel the Royal family are no more than figureheads with much privilege. To my mind, this makes them parasites upon society.

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New Convention Song “ It Will Not Be Late”

by BluesBrother in

this made me chuckle.

a new song that they are encouraged to practice for the convention.. “ we know your day will come, sure as the rising sun.

no matter how long it takes , it will not be late” …………... it is based on habakkuk 2 , we discussed this in depth around 1973/1974.

punkofnice

No matter how long it takes , it will not be late” …………..

What a contradiction in terms.

My brain 'urts!

If I went to order a pizza and the company couldn't tell me when it would arrive but told me, 'it won't be late.' I would laugh up my sleeve.

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WEASEL WORDS--WHAT ARE THEY--HOW THE WTS USES

by blondie in

jw
friends

"a number of techniques employed to mislead others fall under the category of weasel words, and this article quotes examples that are regularly found in watchtower publications.. weasel words are defined as:.

“words or statements that are intentionally ambiguous or misleading,”[1].

intended “to avoid answering a question clearly or to make someone believe something that is not true."[2].

punkofnice

I'd like to know what scientist they are quoting or what researcher they are quoting from.

It was probably 'Andre(tm)'.

Their 'argument from authority' propaganda technique is really tiresome.

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WEASEL WORDS--WHAT ARE THEY--HOW THE WTS USES

by blondie in

jw
friends

"a number of techniques employed to mislead others fall under the category of weasel words, and this article quotes examples that are regularly found in watchtower publications.. weasel words are defined as:.

“words or statements that are intentionally ambiguous or misleading,”[1].

intended “to avoid answering a question clearly or to make someone believe something that is not true."[2].

punkofnice

That's because the Governing Body(tm) (Pee be upon them), are weasels themselves.

How happifying!

This is one reason I never say 'in the truth(tm)'. Instead I say 'in the Corporation(tm)'.

I might even say 'trademark' too!

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Charles the Third and the Two-Headed Beast

by Anony Mous in

i was reading an article about the pomp and circumstance around the first coronation in nearly a century.. made me think of the revelation book (the red one, not the bible) and the picture of the two headed beast with a sword and if i have some time today i will see if i can’t find it and age it a bit, it seems the sword is a bit dull and the two heads are now both octogenarians with severe dementia, kind of funny to see that instead of “swift judgment” we’ve come to internal decay.. what do you canadians, english, scots, irish and australians think about your new leadership?.

punkofnice

What do you Canadians, English, Scots, Irish and Australians think about your new leadership?

Brit with a lot of Scottish ancestors here. I think the Royal family are basically parasites.

I don't believe they actually have any influence here, really. Just figureheads. A bit like Biden is.

Why should they have all that adulation and privilege? It hasn't been earned, I don't think.

Forgive me for being abrupt but, neither am I a communist.

Society isn't fair, I don't have to like it.

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A Little About Me & What Is a Resurrection?

by Sea Breeze in

a little about me first: i was a 4th generation jw who had major reservations about the wt growing up, but finally got on board at age 23 when i got baptized.

spent 8 very active years in, then 8 years out as an agnostic.

got saved in 2004 and been living the born-again christian bible-believing life ever since.

punkofnice

What do you think a resurrection is?
Do you think there is more than one kind ?

I imagine from a Religious standpoint it is a miraculous way of being brought back from the dead but remaining the authentic person.

From a more secular perspective, were it possible, it would likely be more of a cloning process.

Is it spiritual? Is it bodily.
Is it something else?

Again, I'd say a religious person would think you probably mean being raised to life in Heaven?

I don't have any opinions, really. We'll either know or not in the end.

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Do Your Own Research.

by LostintheFog1999 in

there were several times when i was inside the congregation that i met up with a problem in my life and on mentioning it at a group i would be told to do my own research about it.. of course, they didn't mean for me to research worldly material for the answer but to use the wt indexes and look into the wt society magazines.. it was only when i started to do my own research outside of the wt that i began to see the limited scope of the society's magazines as all problems usually fell into the category of 1. read the bible, attend meetings, go out on the work, and pray; or 2. this isn't going to be fixed now but in the new world god will sort it out and the former things (what you are suffering from now) will not be called to mind.. i wonder how many people still in are struggling and are not being encouraged to research away from the organisation where they would receive practical and valuable advice?.

punkofnice

Yes. It is very circular with the Jobots.

They are only allowed to research using JW dot org propaganda.

The internet really has killed off a lot of their bums on seats though. Long may they fall.