Posts by punkofnice

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No more judicial committee if maybe suicidal

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

the new direction in the new elders book is very clear.

absolutely no jd if there is a suspicion of suicidal thoughts.. this is obviously due to the high number of suicidal attempts after the announcement that someone is no longer a jw and the shunning that accompanied it.. so what will happen now going forward if situations arise where there would formerly have been a jd and they say there is suicidal thoughts?.

i can’t see it working, but elders stick rigidly to what it says in the book.

punkofnice

What they really mean is - No DF if the Watchtower Corporation(tm) might lose money.

They don't care about life. It's all about money.

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Growing up as a child in Closed High-Demand Groups

by LostintheFog1999 in

i came across this fascinating article and thought it was worth sharing it with you.

i grew up in that religion so a lot of it struck a chord with me.. https://www.spiritualabuseresources.com/articles/born-or-raised-in-closed-high-demand-groups-developmental-considerations.

punkofnice

I resonated with this.

I'd like to see the 'recovery' paper.

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No more public WT & Awake?

by mikeflood in

have you guys noticed, this year 2023 no more public edition magazines...i wonder how they are gonna spin that fact.

punkofnice

Tonus - Yes. That had me laughing until I soiled myself.

It really is openly crap spin on old Sandy wandys' part. What a twotspangle!

I wonder how many PIMI Jobots cringed at that?

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Our Kingdom Ministry

by NotFormer in

my understanding was that this was the magazine regularly published for insiders only, unlike the watchtower and the awake!

looking online, it seems that the wt ceased publication of this in 2016. is it due to a name change (it seems to have changed its name several times over the years) or has it been succeeded by a new publication?

or has it ceased to be?.

punkofnice

Fedup - It sounds like the sheet of paper the kids colour in at McDonalds crap food outlet.....only less intellectual and entertaining.

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Our Kingdom Ministry

by NotFormer in

my understanding was that this was the magazine regularly published for insiders only, unlike the watchtower and the awake!

looking online, it seems that the wt ceased publication of this in 2016. is it due to a name change (it seems to have changed its name several times over the years) or has it been succeeded by a new publication?

or has it ceased to be?.

punkofnice

George - Kingdom Ministry ..... From then it changed to Our kingdom Service and back again to Our Kingdom Ministry

I remember that. A crappy bit of paper with 4 pages.......with an insert sometimes.

The memory has made me feel nauseous already.

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Secret Elders Book? Bwahahaha!

by NotFormer in

i remember a couple of decades ago when the internet was relatively young and the wt was at war with it, that they were battling to keep the pay attention book secret, commencing legal action against anyone who published it online (and of course, trying to out anyone who leaked it).

i think it was a norwegian skeptics organisation who had it available for download and dared the wt lawyers to come after them.. so i guess the new shepherd the flock book came out to try and put the genie back in the bottle and reassert some air of mystery and secrecy back into the equation.. so i typed jehovah's witnesses secret elder book into google.

colour me gobsmacked!

punkofnice

Notty - What are some other terms that you wouldn't expect in a church/religion?

That probably deserves it's own thread if it doesn't already have one somewhere.

'Governing Body' is more a secular term IMHO. Yet they try to imply there was one in Bible times. The deception is full on with this Corporation faking as a religion.

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Secret Elders Book? Bwahahaha!

by NotFormer in

i remember a couple of decades ago when the internet was relatively young and the wt was at war with it, that they were battling to keep the pay attention book secret, commencing legal action against anyone who published it online (and of course, trying to out anyone who leaked it).

i think it was a norwegian skeptics organisation who had it available for download and dared the wt lawyers to come after them.. so i guess the new shepherd the flock book came out to try and put the genie back in the bottle and reassert some air of mystery and secrecy back into the equation.. so i typed jehovah's witnesses secret elder book into google.

colour me gobsmacked!

punkofnice

Notty - the WT was a door to door sales organisation and that Kingdom Halls were not for "Christian meetings", but were distribution centres/warehouses where the unpaid sales staff picked up their merchandise and got their instructions.

I totally agree with this astute observation.

Especially when I consider the term they use for the Jobots = 'Publishers(tm)'.

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Jws getting drunk

by Farmer Jim1 in

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friends

has anyone got any good 'jws and alcohol' stories?

i always found it amazing that so many jws got blind drunk at parties and got away with it!

i suppose alcohol was the only fun thing we were allowed to partake in....

punkofnice

I gave the 'reading(tm)' at Skegness A$$emb£y when I was a teenager.

Me and me mate whet and got 'as a newt' at the boozer. (I won't say 'pissed' because in Americanese it means angry whereas it means inebriated to we Brits).

The CO came and thanked me after the session and looked a little disturbed at me. Poor old Bev Gibbons, he didn't comment on my post pub Andy Capp look. I wonder what happened to him? Bev Gibbons, not Andy Capp. He was one of the old school CO's IMHO and not the narcissistic corporation bully boy creeps you get now.

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Do You Think Trump Is Done?

by minimus in

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friends

certain forces appear to be trying to make sure donald trump never runs for president again.

some republicans are clearly abandoning trump and of course the democratic press has been saying trump is done!

is trump’s goose cooked?

punkofnice

Simes - Does anyone genuinely believe that Clinton, Obama, and Biden aren't utterly corrupt and guilty of conspiring to profiteer from their positions and fix the election?

There will be those loyal to their tribe that will.

As a Brit, I'm sick of hearing about American politics. It's meaningless to me, the politicians in the UK and USA are all corrupt filth.

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Secret Elders Book? Bwahahaha!

by NotFormer in

i remember a couple of decades ago when the internet was relatively young and the wt was at war with it, that they were battling to keep the pay attention book secret, commencing legal action against anyone who published it online (and of course, trying to out anyone who leaked it).

i think it was a norwegian skeptics organisation who had it available for download and dared the wt lawyers to come after them.. so i guess the new shepherd the flock book came out to try and put the genie back in the bottle and reassert some air of mystery and secrecy back into the equation.. so i typed jehovah's witnesses secret elder book into google.

colour me gobsmacked!

punkofnice

I remember after the local Elders(tm) disassociated(tm) me. I wasn't at that meeting, I was at a friends house playing guitar and writing songs.

Shortly after, a new fleece the flock book was released. I obtained a PDF copy before the local elders(tm).

Then I seem to remember that as a result of the Australian Royal Commission, a copy of the fleece the flock book was available on their site.

..and does anyone recall when there was a letter sent to elders(tm) telling them that if they had the book bound, a sister mustn't do the leatherwork?

I no longer give a monkeys about the Watchtower corporation(tm) and don't have a great deal of interest these days. I come on here out of morbid fascination to see what my relatives are being indoctrinated with.

I have long come to realise that the JWs are NOT a real religion, they are being suckered by a ruthless money oriented big corporation.

It's all a sham. Such a pity the jobots can't see it like we do.