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  Obeying 'Caesar's' law

  by punkofnice in

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  in 's90 skank' by 'big youth' he toasts something along the lines of 'if you drive like lightening.

  yeah yeh yeaaaaahhhh, mek we till yuh, yuh gonna crash like t'under!

  ' (sorry, i do a bad impression).

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  WTWizard. I have to say, I haven't heard of this disgusting cover up. Nothing surprises me with the cult leaders though.

  Where can the info be found?
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  Why would abandoning 1914 mean they are not chosen by God?

  by InterestedOne in

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  2. beliefs

  i've read here that if the wt admits 607 is wrong or if 1914 is wrong, the logical result is that god did not choose them as his org.

  can someone explain to me how that logically follows?.

  couldn't they just say, "we have received new light on that, have learned that we cannot give a specific date (like how they abandoned 1935), but look, we adhere to the bible more strictly than anyone else, we strive to 'keep the cong clean' more than any other group, etc., so therefore, we must be chosen by god as his only org.

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  Do they NEED to abondon 1914?

  After all 1914 has been safely locked into the JW faith and need not be altered due to 'overlapping'!
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  Fred Franz

  by d in

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  2. friends

  for all those here who who saw and may have met fred franz.what would he say about global warming, facebook twitter, the death of mitcahel jackson since mitchael was a witness.what would he say about lady gaga, justin biber, usher and emeniem.how do you think he would have reacted to the events of 9/11 and bible prophecy.would he see it as true signs of the end.. so the overall question how would fred franz respond to the 21 st century with it's advanved technolgy and war on terrorism and the economic crisis that this country (the u.s) is facing.please tell us your thoughts..

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  Freddie would out do Lady Gaga as you can't read-a his 'poker face'. (Come on Barbie let's get started).

  He'd waffle on about 'Um, er, it er, was, um, er a loooooOOOOOooooOOoOOooooOOOOOooonar year.............stay alive in 2075'

  Actually I don't give a monkeys about what his opinions would be. I do care, however, about the damage and death his mentally derranged opinions have caused!
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  Obeying 'Caesar's' law

  by punkofnice in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  in 's90 skank' by 'big youth' he toasts something along the lines of 'if you drive like lightening.

  yeah yeh yeaaaaahhhh, mek we till yuh, yuh gonna crash like t'under!

  ' (sorry, i do a bad impression).

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  In 'S90 Skank' by 'Big Youth' he toasts something along the lines of 'If you drive like lightening. Yeah Yeh YeAAAAAHHHH, mek we till yuh, yuh gonna crash like T'under!' (Sorry, I do a bad impression)

  As a Dub and Dub Elder I had it smashed into my brain to drive carefully or be 'bloodguilty' if I went over the speed limit as it was breaking 'Caesar's' law etc. (I didn't know they had Cars in roman times but hey, what would I know?)

  On more than one occasion I saw overbearing Elders going WAAAAYYYYY over the speed limit on motorways to get to assemblies.

  I saw one CO drive so fast his 'flux capacitor' kicked in and he travelled thru' time back to the '50's and had some spiffing adventures.....I'm exagerating........slightly.

  I just wanted to mention it is all. That some Over-sneers think they're above any law as Jar-Hoover will vacuum their problems away!
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  The story of Punkofnice. It was the 'Overlapping' that finally got me out!

  by punkofnice in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  why i am now a faded apostate after the ridiculous overlapping teaching!.

  i was raised in the trooooooooooth and both my parents were pioneers.

  over the years i pioneered, was an ms and finally an elder.

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  punkofnice

  Nice to 'cyber' meet you folks.

  I doubt Mrs Punk will ever leave the cult. She simply REFUSES to allow me to speak anything Watchtower related.

  I had hoped that my leaving would be a stepping stone for the rest of the family to leave. It didn't pan out. I dare not hope..........the Borg destroyed all the hope I ever had by giving false hope. when your delusions are gone...WOW!
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  Hi, I'm new

  by clearbrook5.0 in

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  hi, i used to be a jw, but too many things bothered me.

  this is a good site.

  thanks..

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  punkofnice

  Fairly new myself. Nice to meet you. Look forward to hearing your story in due course.
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  it seems like this time period 2009-now a lot are coming out of wbts

  by jeckle in

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  its a generalization from my perspective maybe because i've left ?

  oh should i define the words time period like the fds.

  lets see i hope its not like generation ?

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  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/experiences/206164/1/The-story-of-Punkofnice-It-was-the-Overlapping-that-finally-got-me-out

  By all means come and meet me on the above thread which is in line with this one.

  The 'Overlapping' rubbish was the final straw for me.

  I think the GB are more than just delusional. I think they should be put in a mental institution!
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  The story of Punkofnice. It was the 'Overlapping' that finally got me out!

  by punkofnice in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  why i am now a faded apostate after the ridiculous overlapping teaching!.

  i was raised in the trooooooooooth and both my parents were pioneers.

  over the years i pioneered, was an ms and finally an elder.

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  Why I am now a faded ‘apostate’ after the ridiculous ‘Overlapping’ teaching!

  I was raised in the ‘troooOOooOooth’ and both my parents were pioneers. Over the years I pioneered, was an MS and finally an Elder. I had always felt there was something unusual about how the leader or leaders (depending on who was the president), always boasted about themselves. However, I dismissed this as me being overly critical. After all the mind control and parental guidance had lead me to believe I was lucky enough to be born into the one true religion.

  Cut a long and really boring story short. Fast forward to me in my 50’s. I have a family with teenage children and a wife with chronic fatigue syndrome. CFS was something I had repeatedly seen in JW women but never thought it to be unusual.

  As an Elder I saw how unloving and machine like the micromanagement of the leaders were. I only ever saw ‘conditional’ love which often bordered on elitist hatred. Something stirred at the back of my mind. Why am I not allowed to show the love like Jesus showed to the ‘flock’ apart from ‘Watchtower policy’ as written in countless secret letters to the body of Elders?

  One thing I thought was disturbing was how we as Elders were told that in ‘Judicial Committees’ the decision on how to treat the ‘wrongdoer’ was from Jehovah himself via his ‘Holy Spirit’. OK. Fair enough I thought. It troubled me how we gave the verdict of the ‘Holy Spirit’ from an infallible God but then the ‘wrongdoer’ was given 7 days to appeal. Was Jehovah about to say: ‘Ooops, sorry, I got it wrong!’ No! This didn’t figure. I heard the explanation that it was the ‘Holy Spirit’ in the sense that we read the Bible during the JC. Nonsensical!

  One day I was taking a walk out and watched cars driving under a bridge. I wondered what was the use of ‘the field service’ as I could never reach all these people but Jehovah was about to slaughter them. It didn’t take long for me to figure out something was wrong with the elitist stand of the Watchtower organization.

  I decided to read the Bible and study it outside of Watchtower stipulations and interpretations. I couldn’t figure out why we were told that most of the New Testament was written exclusively for the 144,000 anointed ones and yet some of the verses were adverts to place Watchtower publications. I started with a KJV and considered the works of such Bible scholars as William Barclay. The Bible started to make sense without the Watchtower’s confusing tangle of often conflicting interpretation.

  You’ll probably laugh but the turning point for me was the ‘Overlapping Contemporaries’ as the new explanation for the ever changing ‘Generations’ explanation. It occurred to me that if Armageddon didn’t come for 100 years the leaders would simply say: ‘Armageddon isn’t here because the ‘overlapping’ is still happening. See? We were right!’

  If Armageddon came or not the Governing Body has their backsides covered either way.

  I decided to read ‘Combating Cult Mind Control’ by Steven Hassan. After all this was his journey from the Moonies so couldn’t be labelled ‘Apostate’. To date I haven’t got beyond chapter 4. It was all I needed. I have been deprogramming since then.

  Sadly, although I announced my feelings to my family, my wife and daughter think that Satan has got to me and they look forward to my return to the cult they themselves are trapped in.

  My wife will not allow me to comment on the Watchtower organization and shows me the hand if I say anything she feels is critical. She, however, still drops little ‘witnessy’ hints about the usual stuff. World conditions, ‘worldly’ people being bad yadda yadda yadda. I just smile and don’t comment much, it isn’t worth it. Her Borganization forcefield goes up and no matter what I present, however logical, however scriptural she refuses to see.

  SO here I am and the journey has only been a year long so far.

  I started secretly attending a Church and found the people there so much more loving than the JW’s I’d grown up with. I wasn’t attacked by Satan and Demons didn’t invade my head.

  Where am I now?

  Right now I no longer know what I believe. Is there a God? I don’t know! Is there an afterlife? I don’t know! Are Jehovah’s witnesses the one true religion? NO! Now that I do know for sure!!!!
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  JW FOOL COMMENTS ON WHY I'TS NOT A CULT !

  by Hairyhegoat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this guy must be mad.

  please read and take his comments apart.!.

  how jehovah's witnesses differ from cultsby john w. scottjohn w. scott.

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  What gives me a giraffe is the way the article pontificates about how cults work whilst actually describing the washTowel Borg. without meaning to. Priceless!!
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  The Danger of Credulous Research of Jehovah's Witnesses on the Internet

  by Spade in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  http://www.watchtower21.org/2011/02/danger-of-naive-and-credulous-research.html.

  it's been my experience so far, that anything a person wants to find out about jehovahs witnesses, they can find out from jehovahs witnesses.

  any and all information ever published by jehovah witnesses is accessible to all.

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  punkofnice

  I said I wouldn't be back on this thread but I'll break my promise for Mrs Jones.

  Firstly: You're welcome.

  Secondly: Being a Brit we do come out with some strange expressions.

  Anyway I'd like to sing you a song: 'MeeeEEEeee and Misssssusss Jonnnnnnnnnneesss......'

  Hope you're not offended, just a bit of fun. Unky Punky.