key scripture 2 timothy 3:16 should have been translated as “every scripture inspired of god is also profitable for teaching” like many other serious translations (such as american standard version ; douay-rheims bible etc) as it is what the greek text says.. this is in harmony with the contents of bible and also with the writer paul himself who knew after his departure ‘even from his own number men will arise and distort the truth.’ (acts 20:29-30) for example, verses such as romans 7:19 is such distortion.
such verses cannot originate from real paul who was “holy, righteous and blameless.” (1 thessalonians 2:10) hence paul had the freeness of speech to tell others to be “blameless” like him (1 thessalonians 5:19-23; ephesians 5:24) there are many things in the scriptures which are not inspired such as words of satan, words of job’s wife and his false friends, words of judas, lot’s daughters …etc.
apostle peter never disowned jesus because if he had done so, his contemporaries would have interrupted him when he rebuked jews, saying: “you disowned the holy and righteous one and asked that a murderer be released to you.“ (acts 3:14) his listeners would have asked him “what right do you have to reprove us for ‘disowning jesus” when you yourself have done it first?” all such verses or accounts were later adoptions.
This has interested me for a few years now, I ask - How do we know Jesus existed? Just because an old book (collection of books), says something doesn't mean it's true, does it?
When Jesus speaks of future events (such as pollution and sea-level rise—Revelation 11:18; Luke 21:25) it comes true.
I'd be interested to know how you come to this conclusion. The verses seem rather vague. Don't you agree?
key scripture 2 timothy 3:16 should have been translated as “every scripture inspired of god is also profitable for teaching” like many other serious translations (such as american standard version ; douay-rheims bible etc) as it is what the greek text says.. this is in harmony with the contents of bible and also with the writer paul himself who knew after his departure ‘even from his own number men will arise and distort the truth.’ (acts 20:29-30) for example, verses such as romans 7:19 is such distortion.
such verses cannot originate from real paul who was “holy, righteous and blameless.” (1 thessalonians 2:10) hence paul had the freeness of speech to tell others to be “blameless” like him (1 thessalonians 5:19-23; ephesians 5:24) there are many things in the scriptures which are not inspired such as words of satan, words of job’s wife and his false friends, words of judas, lot’s daughters …etc.
apostle peter never disowned jesus because if he had done so, his contemporaries would have interrupted him when he rebuked jews, saying: “you disowned the holy and righteous one and asked that a murderer be released to you.“ (acts 3:14) his listeners would have asked him “what right do you have to reprove us for ‘disowning jesus” when you yourself have done it first?” all such verses or accounts were later adoptions.
Smidster - Christian religious faith is that people tend to cherry pick what scriptures they want to believe as inspired by God
I was thinking along the same lines.
Each version of the Christian faith has different beliefs about what the Bible says or what they think it means.
This is why I don't believe the Bible is inspired of a god or whatever because if it was, the message would be obvious and all Christians would believe the same thing exactly. There would be no doubt about what it says.
Oh, and well done God for having it written in a redundant language. What an intergalactic putz.
I'd be interested in a logical reason why all this is. What have you got folks?
i was listening to the co talk to my wife’s congregation on sunday and pretty much the complete talk was justifying doctrinal and organizational changes and pretty much preparing the ‘rank and file’ for upcoming changes.
anyone on hear have any insight of what ‘new light’ is coming in the future?.
Overlapping stuff
the major topic of conversation was that almost all do not want to go back to the meetings and field service!
and we are talking very zealous and active witnesses!
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The major topic of conversation was that almost all do not want to go back to the meetings and field service!
Understandable. Even when I was a zealot, I hated these 2 things.
And we are talking very zealous and active witnesses!
...well, they have to pretend to be 'spiritual(TM)' or the witch hunt begins.
who has more power in the body of elders in watchtower.
is it the cboe, secretary, service overseer or who?
i am just wondering since in my congo there seems to be cowards among them..
who?
The biggest bully.
the watchtower—study edition | january 2022. during the great tribulation, gog of magog’s forces may try to assault us in our homes.
but we can take comfort in knowing that jesus and his angels are aware of what is happening and will defend us (see paragraph 13).
13. when gog of magog attacks, why will we appear to be vulnerable, but what reason for confidence will we have?
It's the same old re-cycled garbage with better graphics is all.
Sad. Very sad.
i ask this now because i have been living in this town for the past 14 years and the circle of friends i have now i have never let on i am an ex jw.. i`m talking about 30-50 people at least.. not that the subject has ever really come up , but i think they would be shocked / amazed that i was a ( i hate this word ) a "devout" jw for 32 years going around knocking on peoples doors trying to convert them to the religion .. yet every now and again i get tempted to.. how say you ?.
I found it interesting how the people I knew when I was a Jobo, actually told me they thought the Jobos were a stupid cult after I left. However, they didn't want to say that when I was a Jobo.
How darned polite of them.
my wife works in real estate here in the midwest.
people are moving in so much from kalifornia its crazy.
she said her client told her that they had to drive to nevada to get a rider truck.
I can't say about things in America because I'm a British Brit in the UK. I visit Canada but not too bothered about visiting America.
liberals are lying
Yes. They do all the time whichever country you're in.
They tend to be all 'hashtag be kind' but are the most ruthless violent virtue signalling liars ever.
The Left and far Right are both very much the same except the left pretends to do it for your good.
other churches give kids ice cream.
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After I left the WBT$ slaveholdery, I went to the Baptist Church because I still believed in God. I did work for the local Soup kitchen and felt I was helping the local community.
A Jobo told me that, 'those people don't need a soup kitchen, they need the Watchtower!'
Oh how I felt sick to my guts at that remark.
Anyway, that's the difference between the Watchtower cult and Christendom in the UK.
