Posts by punkofnice

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Money donated for a specific reason

by enoughisenough in

i decided to do this posting because of some comments in the post about pensions.

in the mid to late 1980's there was a flood and the local kingom hall was damaged and many of the friends homes were damaged...groups came in to help repair.

my then mother-in-law literally lost everything-she had no home to repair...she had been renting a small trailer and it washed away.

punkofnice

EIE - The WBT$ only care about getting money for the corporation. They really don't care who suffers in the process. This is passed down the ranks so that any sniff of money will not go to help anyone. The WBT$ demands it all for themselves.

You have to remember they need all the money they can get so that they can protect paedophiles in lawsuit payments and providing drunken TOMO the turd with as much booze as possible. It wouldn't surprise me if some of the money is used to get the GB children to abuse.

Why does anyone expect love from this bunch of pervert loving pigs?

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A new generation of anointed that will not pass away.

by Fisherman in

obviously, the older “ anointed ” from 1914 died.

and because they were anointed, they hopefully went to heaven.

in the first century though, a newer generation did not replace the old.

punkofnice

DJW - ........you persist in believing in Christianity. Why?

I wonder this too. I also wonder why some believe in other Religions too.

I'd be interested in an answer to this.

I mean, believe what you want to believe as long as no harm comes to anyone. However, it seems that most religions will engage in bloodshed.

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How can JW's have a CLUE what the New Covenant is about...

by BoogerMan in

...when their "slave class" doesn't?.

it-1 p. 524 covenant - the covenant is forever in operation.... it-1 p. 524 covenant - the purpose of the new covenant requires that it continue in operation until all of the “israel of god” are resurrected to immortality in the heavens.. the new covenant is forever in operation, but only until the "anointed" have popped their clogs, been raptured to heaven, and morphed into 144,000 melchizedek king-priests.

(just like christ!).

punkofnice

I remember when I was a fully hypnotised Jobot, I tried to research this along with the 'covenant for a kingdom'.

I came away wishing I hadn't tried. I thought it was because I wasn't 'spiritual(tm)' enough to understand it.

Now, of course, I know it's because the WBT$ prints mentally retarded refuse.

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Free Will - Does It or Does It Not Exist?

by truth_b_known in

being born-in and raised as one of jehovah's witnesses i remember a common theme or phrases used by the watchtower in its theory of why things are the way they are -.

jehovah created humans.

jehovah created humans as free moral agents.

punkofnice

"A man can do what he wants, but not want what he wants." - Arthur Schopenhauer, German philosopher

Said the man who died alone with his cat.

I started reading about determinism but it was a total word salad. I stopped reading because darn that noise.

I think 'cause and effect' is all I need to know.

There is a question about behaviour, 'is it nature or nurture?' IE, Comes natural or was taught to us.

As far as I can see, our actions are responses and not necessarily pre-programmed. Often I am advised of a certain course of action. However, my responses are often down to money....lack of. Expensive will rather than free will.

.......where am I going with this? I confused myself.

Anyway (anyways with an 's' on the end if you are the other side of the Atlantic to me)....

I still haven't found that rich widow!

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20 Things I Don't Understand about Jehovah's Witnesses

by Vanderhoven7 in

i don’t understand how jehovah’s witnesses can rightly claim:.

that less than 150,000 faithful christians existed prior to the 20th century....when allegedly millions were martyred during the first 3 centuries of the common era alone.

unique ability to interpret scripture...when interpretation of prophecy has been 100% wrong for over 130 years.. .

punkofnice

Although I am not really into 'religion' and 'scripture' as such, I must say this.

That there is no clear agreement on what the scriptures in the Bible mean, it makes me very sceptical.

Folk seem to get bogged down in a particular 'Holy Book' as the one and only one. Then they can't agree on what bits of it mean.

What about what the Quran or Rig Vedas say?

Isn't it possible to read a 'Holy Book' and all come to the same conclusion? If not, I see a whacking flaw in the whole thing.

Personally, I know the Jobots have bonkers beliefs that they don't seem to see themselves as if hypnotised.

20 things is the tip of a very cruddy iceberg of Jobot nonsense.

But, believe what ya wanna. When I read what you believe it makes me wonder if posters even have the correct 'Holy Book', correct God and belief system.

Personally, I seek healthful wisdom from where-ever I find it......bugger all in the Jobot cult though!

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20 Things I Don't Understand about Jehovah's Witnesses

by Vanderhoven7 in

i don’t understand how jehovah’s witnesses can rightly claim:.

that less than 150,000 faithful christians existed prior to the 20th century....when allegedly millions were martyred during the first 3 centuries of the common era alone.

unique ability to interpret scripture...when interpretation of prophecy has been 100% wrong for over 130 years.. .

punkofnice

Why does the organization trivialise its own sometimes dangerous history, but won’t give the same leeway to other religions? It screams CULT!

How do the Governing Body receive their communication from God exactly?

When the writers of the watchtower get things wrong and have to change a previous doctrine why are they likened to the men in the Bible who ‘got things wrong’? If this is the case, which scriptures had to be altered later on because God gave the writers incorrect information?
If Holy Spirit directs the elders into their decision in respect of the outcome of a ‘judicial committee’ then why is the alleged ‘wrongdoer’ given 7 days to appeal? Did God make a mistake?

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Movies that used the term Jehovah Watchtower or Witnesses!

by Witness 007 in

indiana jones 3...we had elders going to this movie.

life of brian stoning people who say jehovah...so funny!

even "supergirl" where someone knocks on the door of the secret hideout and the villain says "if that's those damn jehovahs witnesses again!

punkofnice

Stan - Did any other UK members see it ?

No. I was at the meeting.

there was an episode of Space 1999 where Commander Koenig replied to a statement about God, 'You mean Jehovah?'

Wasn't there a mental monkey in Family Guy that brandished a Watchtower from a wardrobe?

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20 Things I Don't Understand about Jehovah's Witnesses

by Vanderhoven7 in

i don’t understand how jehovah’s witnesses can rightly claim:.

that less than 150,000 faithful christians existed prior to the 20th century....when allegedly millions were martyred during the first 3 centuries of the common era alone.

unique ability to interpret scripture...when interpretation of prophecy has been 100% wrong for over 130 years.. .

punkofnice

the "7 trumpets of Revelation chapters 8 - 11" were 7 talks given at Bible Student conventions in the 1920s.

As I recall, all in a different order to scripture.

The idea that a random bit of Revelation refers to some drunken old narcissist Yank gobbing off like a raving looney, in a forest is risible at the very least.

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An aspect of dealing with my elderly, PIMI, Father

by joe134cd in

for a bit of back ground.

i’m a full blown pomo apostate.

nothing would please me more to see wt burn to the ground.

punkofnice

I didn’t DA.

This is the Watchtower's(tm) rules. Why should you play by THEIR rules? Once you start talking of DA etc, you're immediately talking like a fully robotised JW.

Just carry on as you are, living like a normal person.

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Resuming door to door September 1st

by Mikejw in

gb worried about not enough coming to in person meetings.

what are they going to be like when they realise not only jdubs don’t want to go to in person meetings but they really don’t want to go back on the min.

zoom has so much more appeal for rather than meetings or door to door.

punkofnice

How happifying.

A lot of down hearted Jobots that secretly hate the D2D work(tm), will be hitting the bottle...but not as hard as paedophile protector in chief TOMO the Turd the seemingly abusive alcoholic.

Only the attention seeking Jobots with the most filth to hide will be all gung ho about it.

You know the type. Holier than thou but actually scumbags secretly.