Posts by punkofnice

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New "thinking" on WHY Jesus cried!

by BoogerMan in

we used to believe it was because of seeing the others' intense grief at bereavement:.

bhs chap.

7 p. 72 par.

punkofnice

Looks like the WBT$ make it up as they go. Surely not!

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How do Witnesses reconcile Isaiah 43:10 with John 1:1

by Vanderhoven7 in

something does not compute.

you are my witnesses,”declares jehovah, yes, my servant whom i have chosen, so that you may know and have faith in me and understand that i am the same one.before me no god was formed, and after me there has been none.

isaiah 43:10. in the beginning was the word, and the word was with god and the word was god.

punkofnice

Vandy - How do Jehovah's Witnesses reconcile these verses with John's gospel?

They won't even try.

Sloppy - You would go in circles with a JW with neither side budging.

If the Governing Body(TM) (Pee be upon them), say the Bible does or doesn't mean something, then the Jobots will obey.

They don't try to reconcile anything, they are told what to think and anything outside of this is...dare I say....APOSTACYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYy

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How do Witnesses reconcile Isaiah 43:10 with John 1:1

by Vanderhoven7 in

something does not compute.

you are my witnesses,”declares jehovah, yes, my servant whom i have chosen, so that you may know and have faith in me and understand that i am the same one.before me no god was formed, and after me there has been none.

isaiah 43:10. in the beginning was the word, and the word was with god and the word was god.

punkofnice

My guess is that they'll go into 'nouns' and capital G in God and lower case g for Jesus as a sort of god type person.

Just a thought. My memory of all things Jobot has faded.

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Another diabolical, disingenuous, nutcase illustration

by Beth Sarim in

this has been weighing on my mind all day,.

i just have to vent and get this off my chest.. the latest jw brainwashing, indoctrination session i think it was a broadcast.

toward the end where the speaker was spouting-off about being in a 'race' again and 'enduring until the end',.

punkofnice

It's a good grift for the Governing Body of JW's(tm) (Pee be upon them).

Keep 'em busy. Keep 'em toiling endlessly under a false promise.

Then the Governing Body(tm) (Pee be upon them), will rake in the cash and power.

Not to mention Drunk on Unrighteous Riches!

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Watchtower Double Speak

by Vanderhoven7 in

on eternal life.

"none of us are in position to earn god’s gifts, least of all to earn the gift of life.

but we can show ourselves worthy of the gift of eternal life by … dedicating ourselves to jehovah and then proving faithful to that dedication.” (the watchtower, august 15, 1952, p. 485).

punkofnice

"None of us are in position to earn God’s gifts, least of all to earn the gift of life.

Bible: You cannot 'work' for Salvation. It's a gift if you're a good egg.

But we can show ourselves worthy of the gift of eternal life by … dedicating ourselves to Jehovah and then proving faithful to that dedication.” (The Watchtower, August 15, 1952, p. 485)

Governing Body of JWs: You'll never be good eggs. Work, work, work for Salvation. By this, we mean, give us money and power.
Nothing says you love (cough! Cough!), God, more than giving us cold, hard CA$H!....and...er.....don't worry, we'll put in a good word for you.

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"The Truth"

by Ding in

we all know that jws consider the wt religion to be "the truth" and refer to it as such.. granted, that phrase is used repeatedly in the literature and from the platform.. but it's obvious that much of what the organization used to require jws to teach house-to-house as important truths--even within our own lifetimes--has been abandoned.

it's been replaced by "new light" and "refined understanding.

what's meant by "the 1914 generation" is a prime example.. in fact, i think it would be hard to find another religion that has changed so many of its teachings, especially in such a short period of time.. so why do jws still believe their religion to be "the truth"?.

punkofnice

Konagirl.

Although I don't believe the Bible is the word of any God/s, I made this for you....

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Happy Halloween

by Vanderhoven7 in

first time celebrating halloween.

guess my costume!.

pretty scary huh?.

punkofnice

A beard??????

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Apostate Hunter?

by Lost in the fog in

has anyone heard of this jw guy?.

apparently he writes a weekly (weakly?

) blog as well as having written this book where he claims he disses the claims of "apostates".. to know what apostates are saying he has to be engaging with them or tuning into websites like this one, contravening the gb's direction not to do so.

punkofnice

Sounds like an attention seeker.

I wonder if he actually sells any books? If so, does he/she/they give the money to the World Wide Work(tm)?

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"The Truth"

by Ding in

we all know that jws consider the wt religion to be "the truth" and refer to it as such.. granted, that phrase is used repeatedly in the literature and from the platform.. but it's obvious that much of what the organization used to require jws to teach house-to-house as important truths--even within our own lifetimes--has been abandoned.

it's been replaced by "new light" and "refined understanding.

what's meant by "the 1914 generation" is a prime example.. in fact, i think it would be hard to find another religion that has changed so many of its teachings, especially in such a short period of time.. so why do jws still believe their religion to be "the truth"?.

punkofnice

I think the book that really helped me was 'combatting cult mind control' Steven Hassan. It explained how cults use words to mentally enslave people.

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"The Truth"

by Ding in

we all know that jws consider the wt religion to be "the truth" and refer to it as such.. granted, that phrase is used repeatedly in the literature and from the platform.. but it's obvious that much of what the organization used to require jws to teach house-to-house as important truths--even within our own lifetimes--has been abandoned.

it's been replaced by "new light" and "refined understanding.

what's meant by "the 1914 generation" is a prime example.. in fact, i think it would be hard to find another religion that has changed so many of its teachings, especially in such a short period of time.. so why do jws still believe their religion to be "the truth"?.

punkofnice

"The Truth"

It's verbal trickery. Weasel words. The term is used to convince the user that the Watchtower(tm) is correct.

I think it used to be called NLP. Neuro-linguistic programming is a way of changing someone's thoughts and behaviours. A propaganda technique.

How can you be 'in' the 'truth'?

that's why I never say 'when I was in the truth.' I will say 'when I was in the cult.'