i mean, the jws have many faults, as each of us have.. do you know any other group that does?.
madster - PunkON- the design in all living things is enough! Of course you have science, which teaches you endless accidents are responsible.
I like the way the word 'design' is slipped in there.
Not being a spoil sport, but I really don't care about God or no God anymore.
Neither of the options makes life better or worse. There is no magic in the world.
God is as useless existing or not. Does nothing and changes nothing.
what were we thinking?
mat_10:32 whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will i confess also before my father which is in heaven.. mat_10:33 but whosoever shall deny me before men, him will i also deny before my father which is in heaven.. mat_12:50 for whosoever shall do the will of my father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.. mat_16:25 for whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.. mat_18:4 whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven.. mar_10:15 verily i say unto you, whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of god as a little child, he shall not enter therein.. luk 6:47,48 whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, i will shew you to whom he is like: he is like a man .
which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock.
nuffy - I think you need to PROVE that God does NOT exist.
The burden of proof is upon those claiming the existence of something.
I think you're crow barring recent events into bits from the Bible like we did as JWs.
If the Bible was from God, it would say what it means in understandable words. Instead we have mumbo jumbo that people interpret differently.
CT Russell thought that Leviathan was a train in New York os somewhere. Funny how he didn't think it was a train in outer Mongolia. No. That wasn't familiar to him. Closed mined CTR.
I'm not having a go at you Nuffy, but I think you and many others have been conned on a massive scale.
i mean, the jws have many faults, as each of us have.. do you know any other group that does?.
madster - show me God is Unknowable
If there even is one.
Apart from the one in Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
i wonder how many are like me staying pimo for the great association and gathering etc.
also find it very interesting having a front row seat watching the collapse of borg.. im not wasting any more time or money on anything i don’t want to do like preaching and mostly just go on zoom .
there is nothing i want to do that would be considered disfellowshiping sin, i’m married and want to live by bible principles but i have serious doubts that the gb were chosen by god and are his one and only spokesmen on earth.
Indy - I know you assert these things. All I (and maybe TD), want to see is the evidence. The proof of the claims from sources that are credible. Not from some didlow flat Earther who's out of their tiny Chinese blind.
If any of them were Swimming Masons, so what? It's only the JWs and crazy conspiracy nuts that think Masons are evil.
Besides, moon or not, it won't pay my bills or put petrol in my motor. It won't make any of us live longer.
Sources would be appreciated.
what were we thinking?
mat_10:32 whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will i confess also before my father which is in heaven.. mat_10:33 but whosoever shall deny me before men, him will i also deny before my father which is in heaven.. mat_12:50 for whosoever shall do the will of my father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.. mat_16:25 for whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.. mat_18:4 whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven.. mar_10:15 verily i say unto you, whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of god as a little child, he shall not enter therein.. luk 6:47,48 whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, i will shew you to whom he is like: he is like a man .
which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock.
No disrespects to my posting friends, but I always sigh when I see Scripture blurbed out as if they're real. A bit like like the JWs do. You know, the interpretation will be disagreed with by another 'Christian' from a different Church. To convince me, would be a long road. But, why not try?
Firstly, Prove the Jesus actually existed. Then you have to prove it was the Bible Jesus. After that, you have to prove that God even exists even if a 'Bible Jesus' claimed thus.
The problem as I see is, that people have been conned into believing that the Bible is true as the starting point. The starting point should be to ask if the Bible is even credible, not just because of our feelings, but facts.
Why is the Bible credible but the Quran isn't?
You've been conned by men in silly hats making big claims. Funny how they have amassed fortune from such claims and none of the rest of us have. We've been the ones giving money.
It's all a big grift.....a really big con of epic proportions. I'd like to be proven wrong, but there it is.
i wonder how many are like me staying pimo for the great association and gathering etc.
also find it very interesting having a front row seat watching the collapse of borg.. im not wasting any more time or money on anything i don’t want to do like preaching and mostly just go on zoom .
there is nothing i want to do that would be considered disfellowshiping sin, i’m married and want to live by bible principles but i have serious doubts that the gb were chosen by god and are his one and only spokesmen on earth.
33rd degree Freemason?
I can't see how rolling one trouser leg up is any use on the moon or a stage set.
I know a bit about being a Mason, btw. I'm not one now because it was not what the flat Earthers and their didlow Chinas like to claim.
Ability to Lie. Well, that's everyone ever.
I'd like to see the sources for the above claims.
Who knows, it might convince me.
it's difficult to comprehend how arrogant the members of the governing body must be to sanction much of the content that appears in their literature.
they identify themselves as the 'faithful and discreet slave' - that alone requires an astonishing degree of pride.
but what is even more amazing - arguably to the level of insanity - is the way they then use that phrase to elevate themselves above the rest of the organisation.
It's a good way of turning it on it's head. Cofty.
Hopefully, it will make some stop and think.
i wonder how many are like me staying pimo for the great association and gathering etc.
also find it very interesting having a front row seat watching the collapse of borg.. im not wasting any more time or money on anything i don’t want to do like preaching and mostly just go on zoom .
there is nothing i want to do that would be considered disfellowshiping sin, i’m married and want to live by bible principles but i have serious doubts that the gb were chosen by god and are his one and only spokesmen on earth.
Can I ask where this came from? Please quote reliable sources.
Also, where is the actual evidence (not hearsay or rumours), that these things are required?
I think the picture is an ironic mickey take, not meant to be taken seriously.
You're beginning to look like conspiracy nuts.
i mean, the jws have many faults, as each of us have.. do you know any other group that does?.
Hello, Madster.
cofty Don't 'jump out of the frying pan into the fire'.
This is wise. Because Watchtower Corporation(tm) conditions the mind with their 'all or nothing' panic, I often see JWs jump from the dangerous JW cult to another that's similar-ish. Comfort zone. Fear that god will lovingly murder you soon.
Don't fall for these grifters, even if they do wear nice clothes, silly hats and use Latin or Old English. They go to the toilet (bathroom if you're over the Atlantic to me), like the rest of us. Merely men. They are prone to all the failings we are. They are not the voice of God, they are grifters.
Take time to breathe. Just breathe.
Don't rush into anything because the corrupt Corporation(tm) has made you think you need to.
Learn some critical thinking skills.
i wonder how many are like me staying pimo for the great association and gathering etc.
also find it very interesting having a front row seat watching the collapse of borg.. im not wasting any more time or money on anything i don’t want to do like preaching and mostly just go on zoom .
there is nothing i want to do that would be considered disfellowshiping sin, i’m married and want to live by bible principles but i have serious doubts that the gb were chosen by god and are his one and only spokesmen on earth.
The problem with conspiracy stuff is that it is like having 'accurate knowledge(tm)' that JWs think they have.
It makes one feel special and warm inside that one knows stuff other people don't.
This is what I meant about jumping from one crazy cult to another level of cultishness.
I think you need to stop and take a breather, indy....before you go didlow.
