When I was in the cult, I had no choice but to be 'friends' with people that I would otherwise avoid because of they are either bonkers or just not my type of associate.
Luckily, now I'm free from these dopes, I can choose my own muckers.
punkofnice
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feeling nothing in common
by enoughisenough ini feel like there may be some old jw friends that i could call- they may not know i left jw- but somehow i am not inclined to.
i would have to play a game with them...i feel like i have nothing in common with them anymore.
i feel like if i did talk to them, i would want to tell them they have been duped and that will go over like a wet balloon.
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Should you confess your sins?
by Fisherman inconfessing to a crime lands a person in jail or worse.
there is a very interesting out of context commentary in a law book under the topic that describes the role of a child advocate that explains how humans intrinsically want and need to be free at all costs without encumbrances.
(in germany for example, the government recognizes this basic need and doesn't penalize jail escapes.
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I would like to know people’s feelings on this from interpretation of the Bible. Must a person confess his sins to the church? Is confession mandated by God?
Well, that's me out of the thread. I have no belief that the Bible is other than a load of stuff bunged together carelessly by some blokes. Nothing to do with a God, if one even exists.
As a society, we live by 'social contract'. 'Sin' is an abstract load of religious nonsense IMHO. A tool to control the sheeple.
Others will disagree, but there it is.
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Elders are no longer teachers
by eyeslice inback in the day when i was a young witness lad, you very much got the impression that at least the training as theocratic teachers was good.. even the bible reading back then had a short introduction and conclusion.
you had to research and prepare your own ministry school talks and then perhaps you would graduate to a half of a 55 minute public talk.
then later if you were a book study conductor, you got to decide which scriptures to read and highlight.
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Indy - the meeting finishes that bit early.
That would be living the dream back in my day. Mind you, we had some very self opinionated Elders(tm) that would have use the time to spout their sanctimonious opinions. I remember more than up their own backside Elder(tm) that would do this.
Such small minded men that thought they were more important than they were in reality.
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Elders are no longer teachers
by eyeslice inback in the day when i was a young witness lad, you very much got the impression that at least the training as theocratic teachers was good.. even the bible reading back then had a short introduction and conclusion.
you had to research and prepare your own ministry school talks and then perhaps you would graduate to a half of a 55 minute public talk.
then later if you were a book study conductor, you got to decide which scriptures to read and highlight.
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Indy - it has to be made very easy these days, even taking the midweek chairman is easy enough. You are supposed to prepare every item in case someone can’t do it but they often just miss it out and finish early
I remember doing that when I was the Elder(tm) that looked after 'the Ministry School(tm)'. I'd ask for a volunteer. The usual bunch would volunteer or I'd cover it off myself.
The material was primary school mentality.
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The Hubris of the Governing Body
by cofty init's difficult to comprehend how arrogant the members of the governing body must be to sanction much of the content that appears in their literature.
they identify themselves as the 'faithful and discreet slave' - that alone requires an astonishing degree of pride.
but what is even more amazing - arguably to the level of insanity - is the way they then use that phrase to elevate themselves above the rest of the organisation.
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UA - Thanks for spotting that.. I'll check my source. Then probably go on the sauce.
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Christianity's teaching/s 'untenable' and out of step with society....
by BoogerMan in....according to lesbian comedienne.
"the archbishop of canterbury has conceded progress on same-sex marriage in the church of england would be "glacial", sandi toksvig has said.
the comedian revealed she had met justin welby for a "long-promised coffee" and the meeting had been "calm and considered", but the church's position was "untenable".
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Looks like it's not only Jobots that get 'new light(tm)'.
They've got to keep the money rolling in somehow.
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The Hubris of the Governing Body
by cofty init's difficult to comprehend how arrogant the members of the governing body must be to sanction much of the content that appears in their literature.
they identify themselves as the 'faithful and discreet slave' - that alone requires an astonishing degree of pride.
but what is even more amazing - arguably to the level of insanity - is the way they then use that phrase to elevate themselves above the rest of the organisation.
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Does“the faithful and discreet slave” endorse independent groups of Witnesses who meet together to engage in Scriptural research or debate?—Matt.24:45,
No, it does not. And yet, in various parts of the world, a few associates of our organization have formed groups to do independent research on Bible-related subjects. Some have pursued an independent group study of Biblical Hebrew and Greek so as to analyze the accuracy of the NewWorldTranslation
“Thus the Bible is an organizational book and belongs to the Christian congregation as an organization, not to individuals, regardless of how sincerely they may believe that they can interpret the Bible. For this reason the Bible cannot be properly understood without Jehovah’s visible organization in mind.”—The Watchtower, October 1, 1967, p. 587Do I endorse independent groups of Witnesses who meet together to engage in Scriptural research or debate?—Matt.24:45,
No,I do not. And yet, in various parts of the world, a few associates of our organization have formed groups to do independent research on Bible-related subjects. Some have pursued an independent group study of Biblical Hebrew and Greek so as to analyze the accuracy of the NewWorldTranslation
“Thus the Bible is an organizational book and belongs to the Christian congregation as an organization, not to individuals, regardless of how sincerely they may believe that they can interpret the Bible. For this reason the Bible cannot be properly understood without me in mind.”—The Watchtower, October 1, 1967, p. 587
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Staying in physically for all the benefits
by Indoubtbigtime ini wonder how many are like me staying pimo for the great association and gathering etc.
also find it very interesting having a front row seat watching the collapse of borg.. im not wasting any more time or money on anything i don’t want to do like preaching and mostly just go on zoom .
there is nothing i want to do that would be considered disfellowshiping sin, i’m married and want to live by bible principles but i have serious doubts that the gb were chosen by god and are his one and only spokesmen on earth.
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Indy - Beware of taking the lunatic fringe path. From one didlow cult to another. Just saying.
Your 'boots' picture is missing the Lunar Overshoes that were worn.
Like so much these conspiracy mental cases publish, they deliberately miss bits out. Don't pay attention to them, Indy.
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Talked to JWs Today at a Cart Stand
by Sea Breeze inthey were positioned in a walk way and i had to go right pass them.
i tried to keep walking but my legs went straight to them like they had a mind of their own.. they pointed to john 17:3 on how to get saved.
1 peter 3:18. .
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my legs went straight to them like they had a mind of their own.
I imagine an Irish Riverdance movement.
They said that they already answered my question and that I was making them feel uncomfortable.
The cognitive Dissonance was starting to kick in....or the Aposta-Radar was on.
Of course, I could have been because you were Riverdancing around them.
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UK kingdom halls closing
by Farmer Jim1 incan anyone out there that is pimo give an update on the rate of kingdom halls closing in the uk?.
i was expecting a fire sale a few years back but i haven't heard much.
some congregations that were struggling back in my day still seem to be holding on to their halls..
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I didn't know there were many left.
What ever happened to them being 'dedicated(tm)' to Jehovah(tm)?
2 in my area. 1 is now a Mosque and the other a Pentecostal Church.