Posts by ladonna

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photo of my stepfather

by Mulan in

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here is a photo of my stepfather and mom, at their wedding in november 1969. mom has one of him with hayden covington and milton henschel taken forever ago, but i like this one better.

mom looks good at 57, don't you think?

henry was 54, and you can see the twinkle in his eyes.

ladonna

Marilyn,

Thankyou for sharing this photograph with us. He looks really sparky and your Mum looked very happy.
My empathy to you for your loss.

Ana

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My stepfather died tonight

by Mulan in

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i have just finished making phone calls informing the family of the death of my stepfather.

i was an adult when he married my mother, but i loved him very much.

he was a wonderful man.. although he was a faithful jw, for his entire life (he was born to it) he was a really good man, and a true christian, i believe.

ladonna

((((((((Marilyn))))))))

I am sad to hear of your loss and offer my condolences to both you and your family.

He does sound like he was one of the good ones. There were many good ones in the WTBTS, posts like yours remind me of those; something we should all remember.

Take care Marilyn,
Ana

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C of C online?

by anon in

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i have seen a couple of parts.

is the whole thing at any site?

ladonna

Englishman,

Let a Southerner show you how

. http://www.freeminds.org

Ana

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Elders meeting tonight?????? Need advice???

by MrMoe in

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well - my father (he's an elder) asked me if he could watch my daughter saturday night and i could pick her up sunday at the meeting or he would drop her off at my house.

well, they have offered to watch her overnight plenty of times, but he has never offered to drop her off at my house on a sunday!

the clincher - he said he would normally watch her tonight since it's a friday, but he has an elders meeting.

ladonna

MrMoe,

((((((Hugs)))))) These elders meetings are terrifying aren't they? I never forgot sitting in front of five of those crazed idiots......except one to be fair, who was in fact a kind man.

If I was in your position with the knowledge that I have now, I would invent an excuse not to have your daughter stay over for the weekend.
That way, you do not have to be anywhere to pick her up.......
Just what I would do MrMoe.

Love,
Ana
p.s..my email is open if you want to chat anytime

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MIRACLE CONDOMS! Awake issue

by philo in

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miracle condoms!

(see free sample on back page of awake!

magazine).

ladonna

Philo,

You have me lost as well.

Utilising the very latest technology, this condom is so thin it suffers from no loss of sensitivity AND even allows sperm to pass through its homeopathic, sub-micronial membrane, it is so thin, indeed, that even under an electron microscope it is invisible.

So Philo, please explain why anyone would use this condom? If sperm can get through so can diseases.

Is this an Irish joke??

Ana

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BLOOD GIVEN AFTER COURT HEARING

by ladonna in

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in australia........... civil division september 1998. sharin qumsieh v. the guardianship & administration board & lance pilgrim .

coram: winneke, p., brooking & ormiston, jj.a.

date of judgment: 17 september 1998 .

ladonna

Yes Ozzie,

I have it on good advice that this woman claimed that what had been done to her was equal to an act of rape.

This occurred in Victoria and the husband used solicitors "Slater and Gordon" to gain the original goahead to get his wife a transfusion.

Ana

I will defend, to your death, my right to my opinion.

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BLOOD GIVEN AFTER COURT HEARING

by ladonna in

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in australia........... civil division september 1998. sharin qumsieh v. the guardianship & administration board & lance pilgrim .

coram: winneke, p., brooking & ormiston, jj.a.

date of judgment: 17 september 1998 .

ladonna

In Australia..........

Civil Division September 1998

Sharin Qumsieh v. The Guardianship & Administration Board & Lance Pilgrim

Coram: Winneke, P., Brooking & Ormiston, JJ.A.
Date of Judgment: 17 September 1998
Media Neutral Citation: [1998] VSCA 45

Administrative Law - Guardianship and administration - Order made by Board appointing temporary guardian in respect of health care decisions - Guardian directing blood transfusions to appellant contrary to her wishes and beliefs - Judge refusing to order review of Board's decision - Whether Board acted within jurisdiction.

Appeal dismissed. On 20 February 1998 the appellant, aged 20, was admitted to the Mercy Hospital for delivery of her first child. She was a Jehovah's Witness, and her religious beliefs precluded her from having blood transfusions. Following the satisfactory delivery of her child, her condition deteriorated as a result of internal haemorrhaging. She was transferred to the Western General Hospital where the most advanced medical facilities were available. By 24 February she was very anaemic through blood loss and under heavy sedation.

At the Mercy Hospital the appellant had signed a form called a "consent to operative treatment and administration of anaesthetic" in which she consented to examination under anaesthetic and the "administration of such anaesthetics as may be considered ... advisable with the exception of blood transfusion/blood products". The last four words were in handwriting. When her post-natal condition began to decline in the Mercy Hospital her husband produced to the medical staff a document entitled "Advance Medical Directive" signed by the appellant on 15 January 1998 directing that "no blood transfusions ... be given to me under any circumstances".

On the morning of 24 February 1998, when the appellant's condition had reached a very low ebb, her husband approached a solicitor and indicated that although he also was a Jehovah's Witness he wished his wife to be properly treated. It then appeared that the appellant had signed an Enduring Power of Attorney in favour of one, Tawfik Ibrahim, pursuant to the provisions of the Medical Treatment Act 1988. Efforts to contact Mr. Ibrahim were unsuccessful. An ex parte application was then made to the Guardianship and Administration Board presided over by the second respondent, as a matter of urgency as the appellant was unconscious and upon artificial ventilation. The Board was told that there was "a window of opportunity" of only about one hour before irreparable brain damage would occur. Produced to the Board was the Enduring Power of Attorney which clearly had not been executed in compliance with the Medical Treatment Act. The Board was not told why the appellant had refused a blood transfusion and the "Advance Medical Directive" was not produced. The husband then signed a form which stated:

"I instruct my solicitors ... to inform the solicitors for the hospital that I wish my wife to have blood and other treatment that is necessary."
The Board then made an order pursuant to s.33 of the Guardianship and Administration Act 1978 appointing the Public Advocate as the limited Guardian of the appellant. In making its order the Board stated that it was satisfied that the appellant did have a disability which it identified as "intellectual impairment" rendering her unable to make reasonable judgment with respect to her person or circumstances. It further stated that it was satisfied that there was an immediate need for a blood transfusion but that would be a decision left to the Public Advocate or delegated guardian approved by the Board. The Board explained the effect of its order to the husband and, in accordance with his wishes, he was appointed the delegated guardian of the Public Advocate. The order having been made, the instructions of the temporary guardian were transmitted to the Western General Hospital. Transfusions were given and the appellant responded to treatment. She was discharged about a week later.

On 7 May 1998 the appellant applied to Beach, J. for an order pursuant to s.3 of the Administrative Law Act 1978 to review the Board's decision and to have it declared invalid pursuant to s.7 of that Act. That application was refused, the judge stating that "the order was made to save her life and no court would contemplate exercising its discretion to grant a remedy". It was the refusal of Beach, J. to grant an order to review which was the subject of the appeal.

Winneke, P., with whom the other members of the Court agreed, was of the view that the judge had proceeded on the basis that the Board's decision could only be challenged on the limited material which had been before it on 24 February 1998. The Board had been approached as a matter of urgency upon material which indicated that the appellant was gravely ill, and without any clear indication that the orders sought from it were against the appellant's wishes on religious grounds. Moreover, the husband's application to be appointed the limited medical guardian provided added support for the Board's decision.

On appeal many grounds were relied upon contending that Beach, J. had erred in the exercise of his discretion under s.4 of the Act. These included claims that the application before the Board was made in bad faith, tainted by fraud, or that the Board's decision was otherwise unreasonable. In particular, it was submitted that if evidence of the appellant's apparent refusal to accept a blood transfusion had been before the Board then the jurisdiction under s.33 of the Act would not have been attracted. The President held that to accept that proposition would have made the Board's position and function virtually untenable. The judge was correct in only having regard to those matters which were before the Board.

His Honour was also not prepared to conclude that the judge had wrongly exercised his discretion under s.4 of the Act to refuse the application for review on the ground that no matter of substantial importance was involved. The number of respondents whom the appellant desired to be made parties to the review (some 13 doctors and nurses, her husband and his solicitor and the hospital's solicitor), the fact that the matter involved an order, now exhausted, made by a body whose powers and functions had changed and the fact that an order, if made, would bring the appellant into dispute with her husband were sufficient bases for the judge's decision.

W.P. Cathcart for the appellant.

No appearance for the respondents.

[Editor's note: The appellant has applied for special leave to appeal to the High Cout]

Ana

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The First And The Last

by ladonna in

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found this on a search and it made me really think???.

i do not know the author so i cannot give credit, but it is not my own work.. ana.

this study is designed for those who are currently jehovah's witnesses.

ladonna

Found this on a search and it made me really think???
I do not know the author so I cannot give credit, but it is not my own work.
Ana
The First and the Last

This study is designed for those who are currently Jehovah's Witnesses. The following scriptures are quoted from The New World Translation.

"I am the Alpha and the Omega," says Jehovah God, "the One who is and who was and who is coming, the Almighty." (Rev. 1:8)
Question: Who is this speaking?

Answer: Jehovah God.

"I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end." (Rev. 22:13)
Question: Who is this speaking?

Answer: Jehovah God. He is the Alpha and Omega (Rev. 1:8) and the first and the last (Isa. 44:6).

And he laid his right hand upon me and said: "Do not be fearful. I am the First and the Last, and the living one; and I became dead, but look! I am living forever and ever, and I have the keys of death and of Hades." (Rev. 1:18)
Question: Who is this speaking?

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