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Raymond Franz Never A Member of GB/Fathers Email

by ladonna in

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yep, that's right!!.

i called my mother tonight to say a friendly hello.

you guessed it.

ladonna

Thankyou All for you Kind Words.......

I have decided after much thought to paste my father's email to me here.

Dear Stashya,
I am writing this letter regarding your talk with your Mother last night. I have been aware of your apostate activities for some time and have chosen to overlook as much as I can in the eyes of Jehovah.
Both your Mother and I are terribly disappointed in the way you have chosen to live your life. Five of your sisters are all faithful to the truth and as such are an example of what constitutes a loving daughter worthy of being loved.
We have tried for many years to attempt to make you see reason but of late we are seeing a side of you that we find utterly disgusting. We can only put this down to the fact that you were not or ever will be our natural blood daughter. You were born outside of marriage and started your entire life with sin. I am not alluding to the fact that your birth was your fault, but that you already were born with bad blood.
You question : why we are happy to see people that are murderers, rapists, child molesters and homosexuals die? Well, my dear, if you choose to live in Sodom that is your choice, but nothing you can say or do will pull us away from the truth or Jehovah. As for young children dying at the hands of Jehovah, I used to question this myself but as I see the years pass I can only see evil in the children of today, and your Mother and I will not be sorry that they along with the rest will die at the hands of Jehovah.
We are at a loss to understand why you choose to visit apostate sites to research Jehovah's people rather than call your local congregation and request a meeting with the elders who will answer all of your questions with honesty. They will not distort the truth as you are doing by mixing with apostates who have nothing but an evil grudge to bear against the society.
We know we have the truth. If we don't have it could you please tell me who does?. You cannot do this, can you Stashya?
How many times have I asked you this question? All you can answer is a lame and rather pathetic "I no longer believe in organized religion".
The bible clearly states that we must "gather together". That does not constitute a religion that is disorganized as you so obviously choose to turn to. Do you think your prayers are ever answered? If they are my dear, it is by Satan the Devil himself.
Your Mother and I have discussed this in great detail and had little sleep last night. We had hoped that you would see the way and come back into the fold with an open heart filled with love for Jehovah. This is quite obviously not going to happen.
Therefore I have no other alternative than to ask you to never make contact with any of my family again.
You are not my daughter now, nor have you ever been. I refuse to acknowledge you at all. You have stated to your mother that you wish nothing further to do with us, well my dear, only we have the power to state that you no longer have a family to turn your back on.
You are to us as the Harlot of Babylon. Read Revelation and you may see some sense in this comment I am making. From this day forth you have burnt your bridges.
I hope you are happy with the life and company you have chosen,
Dad

This is why I cannot go back as Comf with such kind words suggested. I have battled my parents for 20 years............battle is over....and this letter did hurt.

Ana

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Raymond Franz Never A Member of GB/Fathers Email

by ladonna in

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yep, that's right!!.

i called my mother tonight to say a friendly hello.

you guessed it.

ladonna

To All,

Thankyou all for your unconditional love and kindness.
I will respond a little more to each of you later, but I have just received an email from my father that went a little too far........

This sure IS like a family here......

I love you all....

Ana

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Worthless without Watchtower

by joelbear in

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i see so many posts here saying that jehovah's witnesses are brain dead.

i just don't think that is the case.

i think its worse than that.

ladonna

Hi Joelbear,

I know that I was taught as a child that I was worthless. The only thing I could do to gain worth was attend meetings, answer questions at meeting, give talks and go out in service. I was a straight A student in elementary school but this fact was ignored by my parents and my pseudo parents at the Kingdom Hall that included 2 of the annointed. I was rewarded with recognition only for placing magazines and books. Guess what I became very good at doing.

Joelbear, you have described most of our childhoods, and most of there outcomes. You are right, none of our academia was seen as important or relevant.

I, like you, believed my self worth was based solely on the grounds of how "good" I could perform. This is something that I also placed upon myself. Continual praying was my outlet. I would pray and pray before going to sleep every night.....unfortunately I had so many 'sins' to confess that I frequently fell asleep on God.
The next night I would have to spend half hour apologizing to him. By the time I got through with that and then praying for everyone else and then my sins.....well.....you guessed it......I fell asleep before the "in Jesus name" bit.

Continual anxiety and guilt were the order of the day. I was 'never' good enough.
It is only now that I can feel free from the anxiety. But it took many years of damn good therapy of which I am not ashamed to admitt.

I agree in part with what you have to say about defending JW's as we were once like them, but I draw a line at those of us that had no choice, as we were born into it.....in my case I was adopted by JW parents.

I always prayed for another set of parents..........

Crazy eh?

Ana

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Jon passed away this morning

by jonjonsimons in

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my name is kevin and i am jon's partner.

jon gave me his password a few weeks ago and asked me to post to the board if something happened to him.

as some of you know jon had been undergoing cancer treatment since the end of july.

ladonna

Dear Kevin,

Thankyou for your kind words in your hour of need. I can see so easily why Jon loved you so much.
I believe in an afterlife and I think that right now Jon would be looking down on you with a heart full of love and pride.
I can picture him laughing and smiling; free from pain; urging you to go on and live your life.

I will never forget Jon. He infected my life with a lovely warmth that many strive for and few acheive. No wonder you love him.
Jon is not or ever will be a man that is easily forgotten.

Please come back to chat whenever you want.....I will always chat with you. You also are a soft gentle soul. And it shines even now. Jon was a lucky man too.

Love,
Ana~Ladonna

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Family About to Disown Me

by Moridin in

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well i finally got the guts to tell my mother that i had enlisted in the army.

she didn't say a whole lot to me, but she did tell my sister she was calling the elders and that when i was df'd she would have nothing to do with me.

i can't say that it suprises me too much, but i was hoping for more of an adult reaction.

ladonna

Moridin,

Congratulations on such a fine thing you are doing for your country.
I am sorry to hear what is happening within your family, and my heart goes out to you.

It is painful to be shunned, but it is something you eventually come to accept.

Far better to stand and be counted for what you are than be liked for what you are not.....

Best Wishes and Take Care,
Ana

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Raymond Franz Never A Member of GB/Fathers Email

by ladonna in

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yep, that's right!!.

i called my mother tonight to say a friendly hello.

you guessed it.

ladonna

Yep, that's right!!

I called my mother tonight to say a friendly hello. What did I get?
You guessed it. A good old fashioned preaching to.

"Isn't it good how the WTBTS have warned us how the world would get?"
"Won't it be good when what happened in NY happens all over the world and gets rid of all the wicked ones?"

I lost it....I really lost it!!

I told my mother about Crisis of Conscience. She said "Raymond Franz? Never heard of him!" "He was never a member of the Governing Body"
"You had better get your facts right from your apostate sites before you start sprouting off about JW's"

I told my mother that WOL was not a so-called apostate site.
She said "Yes it is, they all are. No real JW would be seen on the internet discussing the "truth"."

I told her to look it up for herself.....she said "I really can no longer speak to you".

Well, considering the fact that I have been shunned more times than I can remember this is no surprise to me.
But I carried on......I brought up not wanting to live forever with a God that would enjoy murder on such a grand scale.

My mother turned her colors from normal to flaming red.......I became the despised one tonight. Not just shunned, but utterly despised.....and I felt every barb she threw.

To end it, I said to her that I no longer wish to associate with any of my family (I am adopted) until they were no longer JW's.
Many of you may remember my post a while back where I considered saying nothing to them due to their age........well when I heard the utter contempt in my mother's voice.....age no longer mattered.

I went down on my terms and fighting. I will never see or speak to them again. And for the first time......it's ok!

Ana feeling free...........

I will defend, to your death, my right to my opinion.

102

Jon passed away this morning

by jonjonsimons in

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my name is kevin and i am jon's partner.

jon gave me his password a few weeks ago and asked me to post to the board if something happened to him.

as some of you know jon had been undergoing cancer treatment since the end of july.

ladonna

Dear Kevin,

Tonight, I like Prisca and others burn a candle for Jon and I have a boquet of pure white lillies that are sweetly fragranced sitting beside me now.

This is my tribute to Jon........Kevin, he will understand this, and I hope you do too........even if you do not understand the words......words are not enough.

Addio, del passato bei sogni ridenti
Le rose del volto già son pallenti;
L'amore pur esso mi manca,
Conforto, sostegno dell' anima stanca

Ah, della traviata sorridi al desio;
A lei, deh, perdona; tu accoglila, o dio
Le gioie, i dolori tra poco avran fine,
tomba ai mortali
La di tutto è confine,
Non lagrima o fiore avrà la mia fossa,
Non croce col nome che copra quest'ossa!
Ah, della traviata sorridi al desio;
A lei, deh, perdona; tu accoglila, o Dio,
lei, deh, perdona; tu accoglila, o Dio

Ah Tutto......
Tutto....
fini......
or Tutto
Tutto.....
Fini................................................

All my love
A.G.

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Is the UN 'scandal' the big one ?

by Simon in

looking at the stats, there are well over 14,000 views of the thread about the un.

the next 'most read' thread is around 9,500 so it is clearly a burning issue.. i wonder if the involvement with the un is the biggest threat to the wts?.

they are getting badly burnt because of their covering up child abuse and www.silentlambs.org is doing a great job of raising the profile of this but even so, i can see the 'mental defense mechanism' of many jws excusing this as 'individuals imperfection'.. they cannot excuse the gb getting in bed with the un.

ladonna

Simon,

Thankyou for this post, and I for one would be most grateful for a scanned copy of the news article...........preferably with the date on it and the newspapers' name it came from. I will use this is a way that will make my own family look for an answer they will not have.

Thankyou again for this, and all the time you put in to make this a place for us all to learn and mix.

Ana

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Jon passed away this morning

by jonjonsimons in

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my name is kevin and i am jon's partner.

jon gave me his password a few weeks ago and asked me to post to the board if something happened to him.

as some of you know jon had been undergoing cancer treatment since the end of july.

ladonna

Dear Kevin,

There are no words to express what I feel right this moment. I am so, so sorry for your loss Kevin. Please accept my deepest sympathy. You made JJ so happy and he loved you so much.

As you know, I corresponded with JJ by private email.....the last email I was a little worried I had done the wrong thing in giving him some of the information that I did. Now I feel at peace that my timing was right, and am so glad that JJ gave me the strength and the freedom to do it at the right time.

I loved JJ very much.....he was very special to me, as he was to many of us.

Kevin, please come in and chat to us if ever you wish.....we would welcome you with open arms.
You may also email me if you would like at anytime.

Again, Kevin.....I am so sorry.......and email is so Damn cold.......
(((((((((Kevin)))))))))

Love,
Ana~Ladonna

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THIS IS NOT AN OFFICIAL JEHOVAH'S WITNESS SITE

by nyc_gal in

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this site is not an official website of jehovah's .

witnesses.

i cannot believe some of the horrible things i have read here.

ladonna

Now NYC_GAL, that's why I was such a sweet innocent liddle thang before I came on this here site????

Well I neverr..........theys gone an' fair corrupted me, they has!!

Just to thank that I had to leave WOL because theys all baaaad apostates.

Thankya Honey
Ana