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  Latest convention brochure on,,, the Governing Body

  by cedars in

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  i've finally get my hands on a pdf of one of the two newly released brochures, this one entitled "who are doing jehovah's will today?".

  here's a link so you can download your own copy.... http://www66.zippyshare.com/v/98881625/file.html.

  predictably, the brochure is extremely vague on key topics.

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  @ Finkelstein: Unless a man professes to be of the anointed and partakes of the emblems during the Memorial "celebration", he cannot serve on the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses, period. That has been an ironclad rule which has never been broken or compromised. Now it has happened that some members--Garrit Lõsch in particular comes to mind--who originally claimed to be of the "other sheep class" but subsequently had a change in heart, declared themselves to be "anoninted", and began partaking. That qualified them to then serve on the Governing Body. I believe Ted Jarascz was another man who traveled a similar route to the leadership. But nobody is appointed/elected/invited to serve unless he professes to be anointed first.

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  Don Cameron to the rescue

  by irondork in

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  today, i informed a co-worker that we were in the last day of the last days.

  his eyebrow informed me i had better explain.. with this thread fresh on my mind from this morning ( http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/227971/1/statement-from-heaven ), i told him what was being reported from the highest levels of the wt society and that they were getting this information first hand... from heaven.. .

  his eyebrow informed me i didnt do a very good job.. .

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  I have read Captives of a Concept and I recommend it to anyone who has ever had any affiliation with the WTS.

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  Was There Anything You Actually Enjoyed About Being A JW?

  by MrFreeze in

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  2. experiences

  i'm sure this question has been raised a lot but it is always good to look back.

  the last 5 or 6 years of me being a jw, i did not have a very good go of it.

  one thing i actually did enjoy was going to the international convention.

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  The two closest friends I ever had and other people whom I also loved deeply are what I really enjoyed. And I was one of those people who actually liked the convention meals because while the food wasn't extraordinary, the table talk and visiting with other people before and between convention sessions were very stimulating. I also learned some good life skills while I was in the organization.

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  "Safeguard Your Heart" 2012 District Convention of Jehovah's Witnesses

  by wannabefree in

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  9:30 song no.

  10:50 song no.

  12:10 song no.113 and intermission.

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  Thank God I don't attend these torture chamber sessions anymore! What a waste of time; and to think I used to eagerly look forward to a summer district convention! They were all the holidays wrapped up in one package when I was a Witness. Not any more.

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  Had a visit from JW's yesterday.

  by exwhyzee in

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  it took almost 3 years after we quietly left our last meeting (memorial 2008) before anyone came looking for us.

  after nearly 25 years raising our family in the same hall and it was as if we didn't exist anymore.. that happened about a year ago but yesterday the boys and our daughter in law were here and were all having a late breakfast and lounging around in our robes an p.j's having a nice morning.

  we were sitting at the kitchen table looking out the sliding glass door at one of those summer rains where it just buckets down all of a sudden.

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  You're absolutely right in your assessment of the elders I dealt with, DOC--more's the pity. It didn't matter what the Bible said, they only paid attention when they heard or read "Thus saith the WTS". Nothing else mattered. But I knew I had no chance of getting reinstated. What was important to me was to let these elders know that I wasn't going to grovel at their feet and sue for pardon. This cult is not just corrupt, it is evil and I say that despite the good it has accomplished. What it has done to the human spirit is deplorable but I still hope that I will live to see the day of its collapse.

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  Sale of branch HQ in New Zealand.

  by sizemik in

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  I'd also be interested in seeing an analysis that compares the growth rate in those countries to the sales of branch properties. Maybe these are cases of cause-and-effect. But whatever the reason, I appreciate what dreamgolfer said about sale proceeds being sent to Brooklyn and not allowed to remain in the former host country. The WTS spokesman in New Zealand is simply a liar when he says that money raised from the liquidation of Society property will be used to fund "charitable religious activities...which have strong community links."

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  Latest convention brochure on,,, the Governing Body

  by cedars in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've finally get my hands on a pdf of one of the two newly released brochures, this one entitled "who are doing jehovah's will today?".

  here's a link so you can download your own copy.... http://www66.zippyshare.com/v/98881625/file.html.

  predictably, the brochure is extremely vague on key topics.

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  This latest publication from the WTS reminds me of the way a boa constrictor works. Once its prey is trapped in its coils, the snake slowly strangles it by tightening its grip on the animal everytime it exhales while simultaneously preventing the inhaling of life-sustaining air. The prey is suffocated at minimal exertion of energy for the predator. The WTS is doing the same to its membership. There was a time when Witnesses enjoyed a greater degree of freedom than they do now. Maybe that was because there were far fewer active Witnesses and nobody in Brooklyn was consumed with the thought of maintaining tight control over the rank-and-file.

  The creation of the Governing Body in the 1970s effectively changed all that. Slowly but surely, in the thirty-odd years that have passed since the Governing Body effectively wrested control of the organization away from Nathan Knorr and Fred Franz, we have seen an ever-tightening regime put into place. This regime isn't concerned with discovering "new truths" or finding better Scriptural understanding with the illumination of "new light" as much as it wants to dictate every aspect of Witnesses lives from the trivial and banal to the most initimate. This convention release is a manifestation of that. Filled as it is with logic errors, malapropisms and lies, there can be no doubt that its consumption is meant for the converts to the religion who have arrived in recent years. It also serves as a potent reminder to veteran Witnesses of who is running the show.

  The boa constrictor wants to consume its prey. I think that is the Governing Body's aim as well. They are not concerned for the future as much as they only want to sate their lust for power. I can only hope that they will ultimately fail.

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  Had a visit from JW's yesterday.

  by exwhyzee in

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  2. friends

  it took almost 3 years after we quietly left our last meeting (memorial 2008) before anyone came looking for us.

  after nearly 25 years raising our family in the same hall and it was as if we didn't exist anymore.. that happened about a year ago but yesterday the boys and our daughter in law were here and were all having a late breakfast and lounging around in our robes an p.j's having a nice morning.

  we were sitting at the kitchen table looking out the sliding glass door at one of those summer rains where it just buckets down all of a sudden.

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  Your story is a sad commentary on the true state of this religion. This is not to say there aren't JWs who really care about others. I was never an elder or a ministerial servant, but when I noticed someone had not been to the meetings in a while, I personally called on them to see if there was anything I could do to help or simply to express my love and concern. Often I was greeted warmly and kindly by the friends who would then say that nobody on the servant body had even made an inquiring phone call let alone actually stopped by to stick their heads in door.

  As for JWs not being in touch with reality, my meetings with my judicial committee showed that very plainly. I remember one meeting in particular in which I lectured the elders on their responsibilities as shepherds both quoting and citing relevant scriptures to make my points. I told them that neither they nor the WTS had fulfilled their obligations to seek for lost sheep, bind their wounds, and bring them back to the fold lavishing affection on them once they were back. At that, one of the elders looked at me in both fear and surprise and then said, "You haven't lost a step, have you? You're as sharp and smart as I remember when you were an integral part of the congregation here!" To which I replied, "That's the very thing I'm talking about. You think that when someone is put out of the organization they degenerate into mindless heathens. I'm glad to prove otherwise."

  I still hope, exwhyzee, that the Witnesses who called on your home took away more than the satisfaction of seeing you again and 'counting time'. Maybe, when they were alone with their thoughts, they realized that your family has something lacking in their own lives: peace of mind, happiness and contentment. Being forced to spend a dreary and rainy Saturday morning making perfunctory calls on other people is hardly a fulfilling way to spend one's time. Attending meetings where you are told that your best isn't good enough can't be uplifting either. The Witnesses gave you a printed invitation to their district convention. You gave them something much more precious and that was food for thought.

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  Had a visit from JW's yesterday.

  by exwhyzee in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it took almost 3 years after we quietly left our last meeting (memorial 2008) before anyone came looking for us.

  after nearly 25 years raising our family in the same hall and it was as if we didn't exist anymore.. that happened about a year ago but yesterday the boys and our daughter in law were here and were all having a late breakfast and lounging around in our robes an p.j's having a nice morning.

  we were sitting at the kitchen table looking out the sliding glass door at one of those summer rains where it just buckets down all of a sudden.

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  Thanks for sharing this experience, exwhyzee. I think the couple who called on you really wanted to reconnect as well as have a positive episode in what might otherwise have been a dreary and unhappy morning in service. I think you're right that they were stunned to see your family obviously enjoying themselves apart from "the happiest people on earth". Maybe it made them think.

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  Governing Body member Garrit Losch speaking today

  by sleepercell in

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  garrit will be delivering the last talk today in huntsville, al for those interested in attending.

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  Of all the members of the current Governing Body, Lösch is the most reprehensible. He is the one who delivered the talk to a district convention in Europe a few years ago in which he compared those seeking a college education to people suffering from obssessive-compulsive disorder, OCD. But what else would you expect from those who say that anyone disagreeing with them is 'mentally diseased'? I'm currently living in Birmingham, Alabama which is less than 100 miles from Huntsville. Unfortunately, that is all too close for comfort as far as I'm concerned.

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