DesirousOfChange

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  Staying a Jehovah's Witness

  by lriddle80 in

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  why the shunning if someone leaves?

  why are they working so hard to keep everyone in?

  is it money?

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  DesirousOfChange

  I think the GB (at least the majority of them) are delusional believers, just I was a delusional believer when I was a diehard Elder. Just as you were before you came to know TTATT.

  Yes, they must know they have problems brewing. Serious problems. Such as with the "overlapping" bandage of a fix on the Generation doctrine. (How effing ridiculous is that?!?!?!?)

  I think they are sincerely praying that Joe Hoover will swoop in and bail their ass out before they have to come up with another "fix" for the problems they are facing -- doctrinal problems; law suit problems, etc
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  Who really is the faithful and discreet* slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?

  by Alex Williams in

  1. watchtower
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  this statement was answered in a form of a question to a question posed by one of his followers;.

  jesus realized that composite slave had to qualify for such an appointment when he came into power of his kingdom promised by jehovah god.

  [and they came to life and ruled as kings with the christ+ for 1,000 years].

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  Alex, it'd be best if you'd just STFU and people might wonder if you're just stupid vs blabbering on and on and removing any further doubt.
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  Have Your Relationships Been Affected Because You Were A Jehovah’s Witness?

  by minimus in

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  i’m just curious if you think your past life either adversely or positively affected your relationships?.

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  DesirousOfChange

  Most definitely.

  JW's avoid making friends with "normal" (wicked, worldly) people at shcool or work, thus there simply are no relationships with them.

  JW's even avoid non-JW (wicked, worldly) family members, thus there are usually only "damaged" relationships with extended family. (JW's won't go to their weddings or funerals in a church of if officiated by a (wicked) clergyman of Christendom, but they are expected to go to the Kingdumb Hall for JW events.)

  JW's don't even learn how to really make friends, because all of the other JW's are their "automatic" (conditional) friends just because they are both JW's. Thus, once leaving the Troof, former JW's have poor skills at making friends with "normal" (wicked, worldly) people because it is NOT to make REAL FRIENDS as it was to make (fake) JW Friends.
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  Steven Hassan has a new book...

  by Queequeg in

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  steven hassan's new book..

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  DesirousOfChange

  I don't think it's Trump.

  It's politics. Watch the political ads as the primaries get closer. The shpiels (from both sides of the aisle) are all manipulative half-truths. They put the "spin" on everything to their own advantage.

  Trump just is a master at it!

  Clinton was damn good too! The greatest political chameleon ever.
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  Staying a Jehovah's Witness

  by lriddle80 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  why the shunning if someone leaves?

  why are they working so hard to keep everyone in?

  is it money?

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  DesirousOfChange

  Why the shunning if someone leaves? Why are they working so hard to keep everyone in? Is it the money?
  

  I do not believe it is the money. In our situation, we had quit giving money before we quit giving our time (meetings, etc). If anything, doubters are a financial drain on the Borg.

  I believe the shunning policy has to do with "Information Control". (Let's review: It's a Cult!) The Powers That Be (GB, etc) know that if Doubters and Skeptics share their doubts and skepticism about the ridiculous doctrines (New Light, Old Light, Flashing Blinking Lights) with other JDubs, the doubting and skepticism will be "contagious" and result in many others who go about "whispering" their doubts to others, etc, etc before they finally walk out the door.

  Starting out, some may be sincerely seeking the answers to their doubts, but as they dig deeper and discover that there are NO satisfying answers they come to realize that they have been scammed. The way to shut them up is to threaten them with shunning and the loss of all their "friends" and JW family.
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  A warm welcome to the many newbies who have joined and posted these past months .

  by smiddy3 in

  1. watchtower
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  it is truly heartwarming to see so many new ones sign up to this site as most of us know it can be quite stressful at first ,because of the indoctrination we have all gone through in going on apostate sites .. the guilt ,paranoia ,fear , apprehension ,even being a judas fear, all unnatural fears put on us by a mind controlling cult.. that wants us to be captives of there religious interpretations about the bible.. however this and other sites like it are the only way we can find out about {the truth about the truth} ttatt.. welcome everybody..

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  DesirousOfChange

  The greatest revenge is living a happy & successful life!
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  Who really is the faithful and discreet* slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?

  by Alex Williams in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this statement was answered in a form of a question to a question posed by one of his followers;.

  jesus realized that composite slave had to qualify for such an appointment when he came into power of his kingdom promised by jehovah god.

  [and they came to life and ruled as kings with the christ+ for 1,000 years].

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  DesirousOfChange

  Deut. 18:20-22 ~ "20 But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, is to be put to death.”21 You may say to yourselves, “How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the Lord?” 22 If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the Lord does not take place or come true, that is a message the Lord has not spoken"

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  Is it not abundantly clear that WTS/JW's cannot be "speaking for God"? They cannot and do not qualify as the F&DS.

  
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  Will directing people to jw.org actually prove counter productive?

  by eyeslice2 in

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  there was a time when the society was very skeptical about the internet and the so-called lies and apostate information that was out there.

  it sort of was something to be avoided.

  over the past ten years, however, it seems they have taken to it with a passion.

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  DesirousOfChange

  Gone are the days apparently where the JW would answer a question

  JWs cannot answer questions about their beliefs because THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY BELIEVE.

  The religion is just a social club. They might as well just be members of Kiwanis or JayCees or the YMCA.
  
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  IS the bOrg running out of blokes to serve(tm)?

  by punkofnice in

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  from the silly website today..... thursday, august 15god .

  energizes you, giving you both the desire and the power to act.​—phil.

  2:13.courageous men who are willing to take on more responsibility are a blessing to a congregation.

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  DesirousOfChange

  In our area, (from my limited point of view as a POMO) I see many young guys "stepping up to the plate". I'm talking 30- and 40-somethings (young to me). Really don't know any of the 20-somethings to comment on what they are doing. I think when WTS said that a guy better be an MS if you'd consider him qualified to marry, it motivated some of them.
  
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  The Power Of An Indoctrinated People

  by The Bethelite in

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  let's face it, thousands of people in one place together can be mesmerizing.

  watching some of the videos for the witnesses conventions this last week, from all over the world you get the sense of what total brain washing can do.

  happy people waving banners saying "see you in paradise.

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  DesirousOfChange

  I would and did anything they told me to do.

  Of course we would. They were the "mouthpiece" of Almighty God!