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  THE IRISH TIMES: Judge orders blood can be administered to Jehovah’s Witness girl

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/high-court/judge-orders-blood-can-be-administered-to-jehovah-s-witness-girl-1.4157892.

  a teenage girl who urgently requires surgery can, if necessary, be administered blood or blood products against the wishes of herself and her parents, all members of the jehovah’s witness faith, the president of the high court has ordered.. mr justice peter kelly said he was satisfied, notwithstanding the views of the girl and her parents, the orders are necessary for preserving the girl’s life and not to permit them would be “hazardous”.. the orders take immediate effect, he directed.. david leahy bl, for the hse, sought the orders in an ex parte application, one side only represented, on friday afternoon.. a solicitor for the hse told the court he had informed the girl and her parents of the court application and the parents had indicated they were not attending court to oppose it.. the solicitor said the parents were not objecting to surgery but, should a situation arise where the medical team wanted to administer blood or blood products, they could not agree to that and wanted the team to explore all other alternatives.. they had also said they wanted the best for their daughter and would not stand in the way of a court order.. mr justice kelly said court applications for leave to administer blood or blood products against the wishes of members of the jehovah’s witness faith, while not a regular occurrence, are not unusual.. he referred to a number of decisions permitting that to be done in “exceptional” circumstances.. on the medical evidence, including that antibiotic therapy had not reduced the infection and the serous risk of sepsis if surgery is not carried out, he was satisfied she needed the surgery.. read more: https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/high-court/judge-orders-blood-can-be-administered-to-jehovah-s-witness-girl-1.4157892.

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  We have family members whose minor child required major surgery. It was actually the JW Hospital Liaison rep that told the parents to just state that they could not approve a transfusion in good conscience as this would result in the hospital seeking the judge's order to transfuse if necessary. In this manner, they could maintain a clean conscience before God (and most of all the Cong Elders) and the doctors and judges would be the ones accountable to God.

  Simple way out. No death for blood loss. No "stealing" child from hospital. No bad media publicity.
  
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  Only One Destiny for All Christians

  by cofty in

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  the following is an extract from an article i wrote when i left the watchtower 25 years ago.

  it may be helpful in reasoning with a jw about the anointed/great crowd distinction.. --------------------------------.

  to divide people into those with a heavenly hope and those with an earthly one is not a biblical concept.

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  YEP! ONE SAME DESTINY FOR ALL PEOPLE!
  
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  The end is so close now....

  by punkofnice in

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  aren't they tiring out from saying this now?.

  a jobo pimi-lite i know has a terminal illness (no names, no pack drill), was told, 'hold on, the end is so close.

  the pimi-lite said they will need to hold on to their 'go bags(tm), then!.

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  Just shows you that Jehovah's Witnesses and their "Chicken Little" message is pretty much a JOKE to most people.
  
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  The end is so close now....

  by punkofnice in

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  aren't they tiring out from saying this now?.

  a jobo pimi-lite i know has a terminal illness (no names, no pack drill), was told, 'hold on, the end is so close.

  the pimi-lite said they will need to hold on to their 'go bags(tm), then!.

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  The end is so close now....

  by punkofnice in

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  aren't they tiring out from saying this now?.

  a jobo pimi-lite i know has a terminal illness (no names, no pack drill), was told, 'hold on, the end is so close.

  the pimi-lite said they will need to hold on to their 'go bags(tm), then!.

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  The end is so close now....

  by punkofnice in

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  aren't they tiring out from saying this now?.

  a jobo pimi-lite i know has a terminal illness (no names, no pack drill), was told, 'hold on, the end is so close.

  the pimi-lite said they will need to hold on to their 'go bags(tm), then!.

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  Article: Jehovah's Witnesses leaders ordered to pay rape victim £62,000 damages

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  2. scandals

  https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/jehovahs-witnesses-leaders-ordered-pay-17661919.

  jehovah's witnesses leaders ordered to pay rape victim £62,000 damages.

  the woman was raped by a fellow jehovah's witness after going door-to-door evangelising near cardiff, glamorgan, 30 years ago, mr justice chamberlain heard.

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  Get 'em where it hurts the most!
  
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  Franklin Graham event axed

  by Fadeaway1962 in

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  bbc news: franklin graham's glasgow event axed after council pressure .

  i saw this on the bbc and thought you should see it:franklin graham's glasgow event axed after council pressure - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-51302490 .

  hi been looking on here for a while now , been a great help in finding ttatt so thanks for that .seen this wonder if assembly venues aware off jws view and stand on these issues and others like child abuse cover up .

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  That sounds like the Graham camp is being persecuted!!!!

  Isn't that evidence that they have The Truth™?
  
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  Do You Believe In Polls?

  by minimus in

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  when you hear that the polls say.... do you really believe it??.

  i think polls can be and often are skewered.

  i don’t trust them..

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  And many of those other counties have gone way overboard on socialism (from all the deadbeats voting for more free stuff at the expense of others) and are in deep shit. That's where the US will also be if the Socialist agenda wins.

  The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money. ~ Margaret Thatcher
  
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  It Looks Like Trump’s Trial In The Senate Will Take Longer Than Was Expected

  by minimus in

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  it looks like more “witnesses “ will be brought in, making this trial who knows how long?.

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  Trained chimp. Calling a black person that is racist.

  But it's OK if it was said about a white person? Frankly, changing the term simply because the person is black is IMO racist. The "trained chimp" reference has nothing to do with the person's race -- unless YOU see it that way -- and then YOU are racist.