Posts by DesirousOfChange

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Any official stand from JW.ORG on vaping for medical reasons?

by JimmyYoung in

for that matter using marijuana without taking it into your lungs but by drops, edibles.

i have never heard definitively what their view of mm is.

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STIR CRAZY please help me covid-19 with religious family

by Wagurl in

hi need some help with the teachings regarding the 4type horsemen and the virus.

i'm 17 going to be 18 in six months.

i am a running start student and trying to find the best way to move out after i graduate next year to continue.

DesirousOfChange

Lots of great advice and direction. The best advise IMO -- "there is no emergency here". Wait and see..."

I realize you want to "wrap this up" and have some kind of closure and move on. That may never happen for you and you stated the reason: "Do you ever get to the point where you don't hear there teachings in the background of your mind?" Sadly, probably not. For me at least, I still think of JW spin, even if it's in a negative connotation, when things happen. (ie, "I can't believe I ever believed that bullshit!) -- So, chill it for a spell. DO NOT STOP YOUR EDUCATION! But don't become an anti-JW activist. Don't be a martyr. It's OK to live a double life for awhile. (I don't mean morally. I mean PIMO -- Physically In Mentally Out.)

I didn't see where you mentioned your status -- baptized or not. Big difference! If you are NOT yet dunked -- DON"T DO IT! If you are, you must walk on eggshells if you do not want to risk being DFd and "losing" friends and perhaps even family.

As a point of reason (JW style), there are "many things" that must yet take place before the GT. All the "Kings of the Earth" (government) " is supposed to first attack false religion. Hasn't happened. (Fundamentalist church goers are Trump's base.) There is to be the call for "peace and security". Hasn't happened. (US and China entering a worsening trade war over COVID19 issues.)

I was personally in the exact same position at your age. It was when the May 22, 1969 Awake! magazine (please Google that) was released. To summarize, it said a person my (your) age could not complete college. THE GREAT TRIBULATION IS NEAR! Well, dear, it didn't happen then and it's not going to happen now. Sadly I wasted another 30+ years entangled in a Cult. Please don't repeat my mistake.

Good luck! Check in with us often. We want to help!

Doc

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My ExElder Best Friend Has Coronavirus

by minimus in

jw
friends

this has been a horrible month.

my best friend’s wife just called to tell me that my friend had to be hospitalized due to severe coronavirus complications.

he has severe pneumonia, is put on a ventilator and is in a coma .

DesirousOfChange

they have been isolating themselves in their home for the past month except for occasional food shopping. ~ Minimus

THAT is what is scary!

I can say that I have been doing same -- mindful of "social distancing" while shopping -- and thinking I am completely safe.

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Need help - How do you determine whether to show a JW the truth or not?

by AlainAlam in

jw
friends

how do you determine whether to show a jw the truth or not?.

now some of you still believe in the bible.

to you the answer would be obvious - we preach to anyone as much as possible.

DesirousOfChange

Don't do it except one on one that way you can deny deny deny.` Jimmy

One-on-one with two different persons qualifies as "two witnesses" against you in your Judicial Committee.

"They will put you out of the synagogue; in fact, the time is coming when anyone who kills you will think they are offering a service to God". ` John 16:2

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Plasma Based treatment for Covid 19 ?

by BluesBrother in

https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2020-04-06/covid19-blood-antibodies-recovered-show-promise.

i have heard of this , transfusing plasma from recovered covid 19 patients to give the recipients the antibodies to fight it off .

great !

DesirousOfChange

When the Governments pressure JW's to accept the treatment, this will be seen as persecution -- WOE IS ME! ARMAGEDDON IS NEAR!

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How will the GB respond to the new treatment for COVID-19?

by careful in

one new cutting-edge attempt to deal with the novel coronavirus is to take plasma from those who have had covid-19, recovered, and have the natural antibodies against it, and then put those antibodies in victims who have the virus and need help.. https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/03/826638981/hospitals-universities-push-for-treatment-using-plasma-from-recovered-covid-pati.

isn't taking plasma one of the the no-nos according to wts doctrine?does anyone see "new light" on the horizon in this matter that would allow the faithful sheep to accept such treatment?.

DesirousOfChange

The Covid-19 pandemic is way too hot a political/social issue for the wt to stand up against.

They don't want another "blood issue" fiasco that brings repercussions to them for another 60 years.

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Remember the Revelation book?

by wozza in

i recall when it was released ,that's when i was a drone, how excited i felt at the prospect of reading it and formulating ways to sell it at the homes in my area.. i thought, finally a book to explain the last book in the bible and indeed one that the churches seemed to want to leave alone!.

i sold quite a few probably because of my enthusiasm and can still remember clearly the first day when i went knocking on doors with it ,and it's been decades since.. but over time it lost it's shine and my mind started to question the explanations in it due to the scene of other things being changed in the jw beliefs.. do you remember they flogged that book so many times in the book studies even when it was found to have "newer light " eclipsing it!.

who else remembers the printed pages with the official corrections to insert into the book ,so many that the book collapsed to be of no relevance anymore really.....what an embarrassment!.

DesirousOfChange

Oh yeah! I remember (not literally) those Cedar Point Conventions!

Those were earth shaking events. How could anyone not see that they were Revelation's Trumpet Blasts and the Bowls of Wrath from Heaven??????????

OH WAIT -- NO ONE who is alive today remembers any of that crap!

What JW's did in the early 20th Century (or for all time, for that matter) doesn't make a shit-bit of difference any more than does a drop of water in the ocean.

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WT study April 5 - how uplifting! How happifying! How encouraging!

by sir82 in

for you poor saps unfortunate enough to have missed yesterday's zoom watchtower study, i thought i'd prepare a little summary for you.. in fact, to keep things really short, i'll just highlight the outstanding verbs from the article.. paragraph 2: do not view.

paragraph 4: think seriously about the warning.....partake unworthily.

paragraph 5: do not feel...does not give....do not feel....would never tell.

DesirousOfChange

ERASER SPINNING TOP - ATYPYK

More spin..............

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Coronavirus lockdown HYPOCRISY

by The Fall Guy in

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-52171712.

the bbc isn't even covering this story - it's merely publishing the front page of a newspaper which is!

why not bbc?.

DesirousOfChange

no ordinary citizen in the UK is allowed to apply common sense

And Trump gets bitched about not mandating a Marshall Law policy in all US States when he'd rather rely on the "common sense" of Governors &/or US Citizens.

Damned if you do. Damned if you don't.

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My Girlfriend’s Beautiful Scottish Terrier Died Yesterday 😥

by minimus in

jw
friends

mia was almost 8 and she was the sweetest dog who was my girlfriend’s constant companion.

she had a wonderful disposition and was just a source of joy to everyone who would meet her.. she was brought to the vet on thursday and seemed to have digestive issues.

the vet gave her medicine and said it would make her sleepy.

DesirousOfChange

Losing a pet is like losing a member of the family

Yep!