Posts by DesirousOfChange

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Dose age and the reasons for leaving affect the out come

by joe134cd in

firstly for anyone leaving is don’t get involved in alcohol, drugs, parties, and sleeping around, because it will just come back and bite you in the arse.. i have a theory that those who leave the religion at an older age do better than those who leave at a younger age.

i think to that the reasons for leaving are quite different between the age groups.

i sometimes wonder if many of the under 30’s use the short comings of the religion, as an excuse to pursue the above mentioned life style.

DesirousOfChange

Frankly I think many who leave do get involved in practices forbidden by the religion. Things that are "immoral" to JW's, but likely not so to the "average Joe". Recreational marijuana is becoming acceptable in many US States. Grossly immoral to a devout JW. My 65 year old fabulously successful conservative (rabid republican) attorney friend asks me recently if I am "420 friendly".(No. Not that it's "immoral". Just not my drug of choice.)

Any kind of sex (even masturbation and especially anal or oral sex) by single JW's is "immoral", whereas "normal", healthy, single adults are going to have sex (if they can arrange to do so). JW's who leave that have suppressed same-sex attraction for years are going to at least experiment with it. Many "normal" youths (especially girls) have done that by High School and may have even tried threesomes.

So, yes.......all those self-righteous JW's look down with disdain at all those who have left the flock to pursue their "immoral" desires. Desires and actions that are probably just "normal" things to all their "new" friends and associates.

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An emerging new global authority at how it will affect believers

by Kosonen in

jw
friends

good day believing brothers and sisters, .

i have to inform about latest information concerning the set up of a global authority.

we have waited un to be empowered.

DesirousOfChange

Don't feed The Crazies" - Retail Robin | Meme Generator

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Are Jehovah Witnesses still trying to bring the good news to others during the pandemic?

by Maria Nieves in

i am no longer a study.

during the onset of the pandemic the person who used to be my bible study teacher began to reach out to me.

initially, i just thought that she wanted to know that i was well.

DesirousOfChange

Field Circus hours are bound to drop significantly during the COVID shutdown as JW's will be unable to count the hours at their lengthy breaks at McDonald's or Starbucks.

Of course, they can have their Zoom meetings from home and sit and chat/gossip with one another while one of them makes phone calls on old RV's and inactive family members so that they can all count their "time".

There will be no more or less accomplished than in the past since the JW Field Circus is a joke and serves only to make JW's "feel good" about earning their salvation.

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When do the 2300 days begin?

by Kosonen in

when to begin the countdown of the 2300 days?

to get an idea, it could be helpful to discern when those days end relative to time times and half a time.. i see a possibility that the 2300 days end the same day as the 1260 days.

that is because the woman in revelation 12 will be fed 1260 days.

DesirousOfChange

Did you skip your meds?

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When do the 2300 days begin?

by Kosonen in

when to begin the countdown of the 2300 days?

to get an idea, it could be helpful to discern when those days end relative to time times and half a time.. i see a possibility that the 2300 days end the same day as the 1260 days.

that is because the woman in revelation 12 will be fed 1260 days.

DesirousOfChange

I believe it has something to do when the moon is in it's 7th house and Jupiter aligns with Mars. But I'm sure there is something connected about a talking snake and a piece of fruit.

(But don't quote me on that. I either don't have the same high quality psychedelic drugs as John did -- or maybe I'm not quite as manic.)

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Are All Of The Bethels Worldwide In Shutdown (Covid 19) ? Still Operating ?

by smiddy3 in

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friends

how about all of the printing activities including wt and awake magazines ,tracts and brochures etc.?.

are they all still a going concern ?.

how many people would there be on average at any one bethel home ?.

DesirousOfChange

A teenager with a color copier could do their printing for them now.

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A warm welcome to the many newbies who have joined and posted these past months .

by smiddy3 in

it is truly heartwarming to see so many new ones sign up to this site as most of us know it can be quite stressful at first ,because of the indoctrination we have all gone through in going on apostate sites .. the guilt ,paranoia ,fear , apprehension ,even being a judas fear, all unnatural fears put on us by a mind controlling cult.. that wants us to be captives of there religious interpretations about the bible.. however this and other sites like it are the only way we can find out about {the truth about the truth} ttatt.. welcome everybody..

DesirousOfChange

Reading Benny's comment it came to mind that you Newbies must be sure to erase your computer history lest you risk being discovered by your family!

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What a wonderful time---for faders to fade away!

by eyeuse2badub in

i’ve been thinking about it for a few weeks and i’m sort of surprised that no one else has introduced this topic!.

what better time than now for a fader to fade?

no meetings, no field service, no elder visits, no assemblies, no convention, and no other bullshit busy work going on.

DesirousOfChange

The time for "fading" will be when things gradually return to "normal". One just has to say they are "at risk" and thus continuing with social distancing for a while longer (and a while longer, and a while longer), including NOT attending meetings (for a while longer).

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Alert: Following blindly jw.org these day / RISK

by Gorbatchov in

jw
friends

this night i could not sleep and my thoughts went on and on.

the result:.

i observe that many jw family members follow the instructions of the elders at zoom meetings like they come directly from god.

DesirousOfChange

There is the about the same risk these days as it was in the past. To blindly follow the GB/WTS means one will be ill prepared for life in the outside world. One will be poorly educated and likely socially inept. These and other factors will likely cause the person to be low income and ill prepared for the future.

I don't see it MORE risky than in the past because nothing really has changed. This (COVID issue) is just another "End of The World" moment for JW's. This will pass just as all the other have passed for the past 100 years and they will forget all about how fanatic they all were and mope around until the next event.

Wash. Rinse. Repeat.

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Any suggestions

by Xena73 in

i just woke up and i'm new on here.

if your an unbaptized publisher can you be disfellowshipped or dissociated?

please send me a message.

DesirousOfChange

Marking and DFing are really the same thing

No they are not.

If you are DFd, other JW's can be "punished" (threatened with being DFd) for associating with you. If you're "marked" most people won't even remember the talk about it and only the Ricky Righteous crowd will shun you (and those that WANT to shun you). Your "friends" (real ones) can ignore the BS without serious consequences.