The WTS said that since it had long lost any religious meaning, it was o k to have them. Pity they dont apply tbat thinking to other things.
The JW's are masters at "SPIN"!
DesirousOfChange
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J.W's and " but that is Pagan !".
by Phizzy inthere have been a number of threads touching on this before, leolaia for one, back in the day when we had many an erudite poster, showed the pagan origins of many things, including the passover , and by extension, the jw " memorial".. what prompted my thought on this was a conversation i had the other day with a young lady, never a jw, who said the jw stance on birthday celebrations, was groundless and cruel.. i thought later that jw's do a " pick and mix " as usual, as they do with so many other things, on what they condemn as "pagan" and what they accept and practice.. the institution of marriage itself is pagan, marriages were performed long before the bible was written, and long before the nation of israel was formed.
yet jw's perform marriages, use the veil, and the ring, all pagan.
the names of the days of the week, the months of the year, all pagan.. i guess you guys can think of many more things ?
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J.W's and " but that is Pagan !".
by Phizzy inthere have been a number of threads touching on this before, leolaia for one, back in the day when we had many an erudite poster, showed the pagan origins of many things, including the passover , and by extension, the jw " memorial".. what prompted my thought on this was a conversation i had the other day with a young lady, never a jw, who said the jw stance on birthday celebrations, was groundless and cruel.. i thought later that jw's do a " pick and mix " as usual, as they do with so many other things, on what they condemn as "pagan" and what they accept and practice.. the institution of marriage itself is pagan, marriages were performed long before the bible was written, and long before the nation of israel was formed.
yet jw's perform marriages, use the veil, and the ring, all pagan.
the names of the days of the week, the months of the year, all pagan.. i guess you guys can think of many more things ?
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DesirousOfChange
I used to study with JW up until I had an encounter with Jesus and The Holy Spirit lead me to an accurate knowledge of God.
Trading one cult's superstitions for another's.
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JW feeling persecuted yet (California)
by Anony Mous incalifornia, after failing to ban all religious gatherings (failed in court) has now banned all singing and chanting in religious places, including if you are on a live stream and the only person around.. i haven't heard a peep yet from the jw.borg about how to handle this new 'persecution' on religion, the only thing that came up with a search was this: .
https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/watchtower-study-november-2017/singing-essential-part-of-true-worship/.
https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/watchtower-study-july-2019/worship-jehovah-when-under-ban/.
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DesirousOfChange
I think the Borg is "laying low" and not wanting to "rock the boat" regarding any restrictions resulting from the COVID plague. They're likely afraid they'd be sued if they were the cause of a spike among the JW community.
As long as the cash flow doesn't taper off, they'll continue with Zoom meetings.
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DesirousOfChange
Gotta get rid of this Indian head pennies too! Probably should hold on to the Liberty dimes and silver dollars since liberties seem to becoming extinct.
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I’m Seeing Some Trump Fatigue Out There
by minimus ini’ve heard from a few trump voters that they are getting tired of the whole trump thing.
one person yesterday said he lies.
another person said she hears from her clients in her business that the constant drama and push back from all sides against trump is fatiguing.. i remind people that before this worldwide pandemic, we had the best numbers in jobs.
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DesirousOfChange
Sadly... hospitals ARE overflowing now in the US.
Where our son works, 30% of nursing and support staff have been laid off and management is forcing a mandatory 10% cut on physicians under long term contract. NO overflowing conditions. Two COVID patients. At no time have there been more than 16 patients total. Two deaths (elderly from nursing homes).
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Bringing Reproach on Jehovah's Name
by cofty inall my jw life i was reminded constantly about the importance of not bringing reproach on jehovah's name.
decisions on whether or not to disfellowship an individual often turned, not on the seriousness of the sin, but on whether the incident was public knowledge and had resulted in bad publicity for the congregation.
i recall a middle-aged lady being reported to the elders for shoplifting a sweet worth less than £1- and the elders' insistence that a judicial committee must be formed because the store manager and staff knew that she was a jw (i successfully argued that all she needed was support for her dreadful family life, but that's another story).
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DesirousOfChange
So wish this would get some headlines in the USA.
But of course, the riots and new COVID cases take up all that space.
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DesirousOfChange
Deja vu.
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I’m Seeing Some Trump Fatigue Out There
by minimus ini’ve heard from a few trump voters that they are getting tired of the whole trump thing.
one person yesterday said he lies.
another person said she hears from her clients in her business that the constant drama and push back from all sides against trump is fatiguing.. i remind people that before this worldwide pandemic, we had the best numbers in jobs.
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DesirousOfChange
The San Andreas Fault will now be known as the Barack Obama Fault.
No one will ever hear that news!
Right now, EVERYTHING YOU READ ABOUT IS TRUMP'S FAULT!
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Is Anyone Happy That Police Forces Are Being Abolished or scut??
by minimus inin minneapolis, the city council has voted to abolish the police.. many cities want to either disband or defund the police.
black lives matter and other groups have influenced citizens and neighborhoods to get rid of police and their authority.
is anyone really supportive of removing the police or cutting out law enforcement through the budget?
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DesirousOfChange
There definitely needs to be police reform. Law enforcement has no accountability to anyone except to others in law enforcement (who we see clearly "covers up" for one another). Police Unions need to be banned. Citizens boards need to review complaints. The alternative is that cities that allow the system to continue will face lawsuit after lawsuit and lose MILLION$ in awards as the average citizen juror will no longer give a benefit of the doubt to cops.
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Expectation vs Reality
by joey jojo in.
just wanted to put this out there for any lurkers.. as someone that grew up during the 70s and 80s, we were promised that we would be in the first picture long ago.
if you are still on the fence, please let this sink in for a while..
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