DesirousOfChange

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  What are the Society's rules when confronting a disfellowshipped person at a funeral service?

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  what are the society's rules when confronting a disfellowshipped person at a funeral service?.

  are there specific rules or watchtower articles that must be followed?.

  i have been to three different wakes/funerals where a disfellowshipped person attended with different results.. 1. ten years ago my first cousin passed away.

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  DesirousOfChange

  I'm the guy (even as an elder) in case #2. Jesus yielded and ignored the law when speaking with the Samaritan women at the wall. "By law", he should have been put to death. Regardless of what you think about the JW DFing rule (frankly I now think it's bullshit) but even as a JW, "yielding" to show your sympathy to someone who has lost a loved one is THE RIGHT THING TO DO. Shunning them is a BAD witness to others and it hardens their resolve to NEVER "return to Joe Hoover".

  JW's as in Case #3 are self-righteous pompous assholes.

  In Case #1, I agree with your assessment that JW Elders think they have the authority to just "take over" and enforce their rules and their thinking. FUCK 'EM if they're not paying the funeral bill (or insert whatever occasion).
  
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  I've been shot

  by FatFreek 2005 in

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  yes, the long-awaited vaccine entered my bloodstream yesterday at 5 pm.. as steve martin humorously remarked, "good news/bad news.

  good news: i just got vaccinated!

  bad news: i got it because i'm 75.

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  DesirousOfChange

  https://www.prevention.com/health/a35118263/astrazeneca-vs-pfizer-vs-moderna-covid-19-vaccine/

  Comparison of the vaccines.

  AstraZeneca is "old style" vaccine vs the "new" mRNA technology used in the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines that introduce a genetic code into your DNA. I hope the AstraZeneca become available here in the US shortly.
  
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  Witnessing letter that has gone viral

  by drzhivago73 in

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  here’s a link to a really cool letter that no witness can dispute.. jw letter.

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  DesirousOfChange

  I'd suggest sending that to all your (former) JW friends and put the return address of your local Kingdom Hall.
  
  
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  2021...what do you foresee?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
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  do you think the world will be a better place?

  more civil?

  kinder?

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  DesirousOfChange

  $5+ gasoline, rolling blackouts, brownshirts, a duty to retreat even if you have a (unregistered) weapon. (redistributing wealth but not from the really wealthy) .........In the US you should learn enough Spanish to get by.

  Yes. Biden is signing 18 Executive Orders today after his inauguration (though it's doubtful he has idea what they say or mean).

  Stop Keystone Pipeline ($5 gas is coming)

  Join Paris Climate Accord (Doubling of your electric bill is coming) along with "brownouts" (but not just in CA)

  Halt to deportations and immigration reform (Lots of new Democrat voters) and Repeal of the ban on immigrants from (dangerous) Muslim Nations (lots of new hate crime) and you should likely learn some Arabic too.
  
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  2021...what do you foresee?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
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  do you think the world will be a better place?

  more civil?

  kinder?

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  DesirousOfChange

  I wonder if Joe Biden will last 4 years.

  
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  Senior Judge to Revisit Case-Law on Authorizing Medical Treatment Against Wishes of Mature Minor

  by Corney in

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  https://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/ewhc/fam/2020/3003.html.

  nearly two weeks ago, sir james munby, a privy council member, formerly a law commission chairman, high court's family division president, and a lord justice of appeal, issued a short emergency order in a blood transfusion case closely resembling mcewan's the children act.. here are some excerpts:.

  2. the case involves the deeply troubling question of whether a blood transfusion should be administered to a young woman who is almost, not quite, 16, against her profound religious beliefs.

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  DesirousOfChange

  It seems to me that I have, for the purposes of today, to approach this matter on the basis of the law as it currently appears to be.

  What a unique point of view for someone versed in the law.
  
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  So are JWs told not to go on YouTube?

  by mickbobcat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was told on line that jws are now forbidden to go on youtube?

  is that true or is it a case by case congregation thing?.

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  DesirousOfChange

  I've never heard of that being a "blanket rule".

  The internet is the WTS's greatest enemy and it's a "Pandora's Box" that cannot be closed.
  
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  Food for thought ? Talking to a JW ?

  by smiddy3 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  some questions you may like to ask a jehovah`s witness?.

  1.when did the modern day jw religion begin?

  we all know the stock answer to that q that they will give ,but persevere .. for the past 2000 years there has never been an organization known as jw.

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  DesirousOfChange

  Do JWs ever think about their responsibility if the GB steers them in the wrong direction?

  I think many JWs would say that Joe Hoover would only hold the GB responsible.

  I guess they forget about who was held responsible when King David defiantly took a census?
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  Food for thought ? Talking to a JW ?

  by smiddy3 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  some questions you may like to ask a jehovah`s witness?.

  1.when did the modern day jw religion begin?

  we all know the stock answer to that q that they will give ,but persevere .. for the past 2000 years there has never been an organization known as jw.

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  DesirousOfChange

  They won't care.

  JW's do not know the history of their religion. JW's do not know the doctrinal basis for their beliefs. JW's DO KNOW that someone asking questions that they cannot answer are a "danger" to them (because they have been told this over and over).

  Run, Forrest, Run! will be the first thought that they have.
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  Does the Jehovah's Witnesses fall into category of being an organized cult ?

  by Finkelstein in

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  i think it does especially being that this organization is rigidly structured itself on formulated doctrines from a top hierarchy of men which are strictly enforced, among other reasons.

  what cults are.

  a cult is not necessarily a religious group, although religious cults are common, including breakaway sects from more mainstream faiths.

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  DesirousOfChange

  OMG YES! JW’s are the “poster child” of Cults.

  If you have not read “Combatting Cult Mind Control” by Steven Hassan, BUY IT NOW!