Posts by DesirousOfChange

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Would you leave the Watchtower if you woke up at age 80 plus, or just stay in for the rest of your life.

by pistolpete in

so yesterday while i was doing some work for a customer, i noticed the wt mags on the sofa.

and i asked the elderly man if he was a jehovah witness?.

he said that he and his wife and all his children were raised in the religion, but only he and his wife attend the meetings or zoom.

DesirousOfChange

I say STAY within your network of friends, but shut off you wallet.

This was a hard decision at nearly 60 years old, let alone 80+.

We lost our entire network of "friends" from the Hall when we faded. Not DF. Not DA. Just "inactive & stumbled".

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the non-profit organization behind the jehovah's witnesses in kraainem, belgium has been convicted of inciting discrimination and hatred or violence against former members who chose to leave the community.

the court in ghent has fined jehovah's witnesses eur 12,000 but due to the indexation adjustment, the actual payout to the victim will be (at this point) 8 times higher.

the multiplier seems weird to us, for those familiar with us law, the eur 12,000 is the statutory fine, taking into account the devaluation of currency, the court system sets an indexed multiplier for fines, currently at 8 - similar to how fines in the us were set in the 1800's at $100 would now be several thousands of dollars.. it is likely that the jehovah's witnesses will pursue this case to the european court.. according to the prosecutor, this case is therefore mainly about recognizing the malpractices within the community, not so much about sanctions: “in our opinion, this is a blatant violation of the discrimination law.

DesirousOfChange

It's a shame the Cult's leaders are having to deal with so many legal issues. Evidently™ all of these worldly governments do not realize that WTS/GB are above the law (of mere humans). They will perhaps see their error when they see justice when they birds eat their eyeballs.

Let's review: "It's a Cult!

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Belgium: Jehovah's Witnesses in court to respond to incitement to hatred

by yalbmert99 in

belgium: jehovah's witnesses in court to respond to incitement to hatred.

february 16, 2021.. https://www.levif.be/actualite/belgique/les-temoins-de-jehovah-devant-le-tribunal-pour-repondre-d-incitation-a-la-haine/article-news-1392951.html.

DesirousOfChange

It's a shame the Cult's leaders are having to deal with so many legal issues. Evidently™ all of these worldly governments do not realize that WTS/GB are above the law (of mere humans).

Let's review: "It's a Cult!

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Can a person resign from being one of Jehovah's Witness?

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

can a person resign from being one of jehovah’s witnesses?.

frequently asked questions.

a person can resign from our organization in two ways:.

DesirousOfChange

Couldn’t you just quit as a baptized one prior without any major sanction?

You can likely just "fade" into the sunset and the Elders will leave you alone as long as you ain't "stirring the shit". However if you're determined to be an advocate against them, they will then likely "hunt you down" and DF you to limit the association others will have with you.

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Prove That Jehovah’s Witnesses Do Not Have The “Truth”

by minimus in

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friends

someone is researching jehovah’s witnesses.

they happen to come on to this site.

do the witnesses have the truth??.

DesirousOfChange

I think it's pretty simple:

DEUT 18:20-22

20 But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, is to be put to death.”

21 You may say to yourselves, “How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the Lord?” 22 If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the Lord does not take place or come true, that is a message the Lord has not spoken.

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How Do You Feel About Completely Open Borders?

by minimus in

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whether you are in the usa or another country, are you for it or against it?.

DesirousOfChange

I hear there are a lot of jobs that people in the U.S. don't want and that immigrants will do those jobs. Well, I say offer those jobs to people who are on government assistance, and if they don't take the jobs and do well at them, then cut off their assistance.

Those people who do not want to work will not even if you try to force them into it. They've learned to play the system. They are the same people who file work comp claims for "injuring" their back from a little hard work and then never seem to be able to recover. Then as soon as they can, they'll file for Social Security disability too. Businesses would rather they mooch off the "system" than mooch off of them and damage their insurance rates.

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What JW Subjects Interest You The Most On This Site? What Doesn’t??

by minimus in

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i like subjects that delve into the history of the religion and proofs that the witnesses are not the true religion.

i’m not so much into apologists saying we need to go to meetings, especially if the poster looks like a scammer trying to get ex jws going.

what subjects interest you ?

DesirousOfChange

Frankly, my interest in JW subjects is fading (like me, haha). I just have a hard time caring anymore about what they are doing. In the past I wanted to "keep up" with JW World due to family involvement plus it's fun to watch them squirm in an effort to squeeze out of past failed prophecies, but I think I'm hopefully moving on to becoming an "ex-exJW"

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What is the youngest a child has been baptised as a JW?

by Ultimate Axiom in

the youngest reference i have come across is in the 1992 watchtower (march 1st page 27) - “in the summer of 1946, i was baptized at the international convention in cleveland, ohio.

although i was only six years of age…”.

i would like to find more examples of this, particularly of examples in more recent times.