We've been "faded" for years. We still have no interest in celebrating Christmas. I see people piss away money giving gifts to people who don't want or need the gift. It will be out in their next garage/yard sale. And many go do deeply into debt to do it.
DesirousOfChange
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Merry Christmas Everyone
by jhine ini don't think that it's too early to start this thread so .
merry christmas everyone.
maybe people could share christmas music or clips to get us all in the mood.
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"The End is Imminent" - Tony Morris, 2017
by Smiles in2017 tony morris jw gb.
"the end is imminent!".
timestamp (06:00).
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DesirousOfChange
That quote is just after the 6:00 minute mark.
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1975 and so on.
by zachias inyes i was there.. when we were all told.. 1975 is the time.
i was new to the jw thing but i knew then "that no man knoweth the day nor the hour....".. https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5647286362177536/1975-on.
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DesirousOfChange
"That no man knoweth the day nor the hour....".
But at the same time
"For the Sovereign Lord Jehovah will not do a thing unless he has revealed his confidential matter* to his servants the prophets." ~ Amos 3:7
WT claimed to be Jehovah's prophet. (April 1, 1972 Watchtower, Pg 197). The Rank & File joyfully drank the Koolaid. They were "special".
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2020’s are already a Train Wreck for JW ORG
by Reservations inas the title says, we are nearly at the end of the 2nd year of the 2020’s, and already jw org is not only a car crash, but an absolute train wreck.. i’ve watched the annual meeting 2021 already, and it seems the gb are in fighting, morris openly disagreeing with lett, that is massive, and it’s something that has largely not been commented on by this community.
covid-19 is not going anywhere, any trial meetings will surely be shut down, now omicron is doing the rounds.. it looks highly likely we will see a second negative growth year.
“young ones” are waking up by the masses.
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DesirousOfChange
As I read Lucky Ned's supposition above (and I have no problem with his conclusions) I just have to say that I do not think the average JW puts this much work into understanding all this Overlapping Doctrine Bullshit.
WHY? First of all, because most JW's are not in the practice of studying the Bible or any of the JW Doctrine. They just hobble along like little sheeple are supposed to do. If you were to lay out that spiel to the average JW that's still PIMI today, their eyes would just gloss over and they'd be lost before you completed the explanation. Additionally, they are happy to just lap up and consume all the New Light Spiritual
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What are the maim lies Apostates tell about Jehovah's Witnesses?
by Vanderhoven7 inmain not maim.
picked this answer up on quora.
please add other apostate "lies" you are aware of.. "jehovah's witnesses cannot refute the facts in the so-called “ lies” against them, and when they do, they shamelessly lie and tell half-truths to defend their mind-controlling sect.. their new york based leaders tell them that anything negative said about their sect is a “ lie “ from “ mentally diseased, bitter apostates”.. jws are yet to come to terms with the fact that we are in the information age and they can no longer get away with lying to protect their organisation.. for example, one of the “ lies “ told about them is that they shun anyone who leaves the cult , including family members, including their own children.. another “ lie “ is that jws are ready to allow their children to die rather than accept a life-saving blood transfusion.. the child sex abuse coverup in the cult is also said to be a “lie “.
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DesirousOfChange
Great list that you are compiling.
I can verify they are all true "lies". (Is that an oxymoron?)
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The Watchtower—Study Edition | February 2022 Trust in Jehovah ...We really meant ''the Governing Body''
by RULES & REGULATIONS inthe watchtower—study edition | february 2022. study article 6. do you trust in jehovah’s way of doing things?.
15 as the end of this system of things draws near, we need to trust in jehovah’s way of doing things as never before.
during the great tribulation, we may receive instructions that seem strange, impractical, or illogical.
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DesirousOfChange
But this is helping us to see that we should not entertain this kind of rational thinking but should just trust what the brothers say. Island Man
While I understand your line of reasoning, I do not think the JW R&F will do so. They have already been told that exact statement with which you conclude your reasoning and they have not batted an eye. They are doing exactly that.
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Prayer for every day
by May1981 ini pray for every person in the world.
you can also join my prayer.
and may the creator hear our prayers.
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DesirousOfChange
Punk -- Great video, you infidel!
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Annual meeting 2021
by asp59 instarted to watch annual meeting.
morris speaking.
directly he compared gb now to the apostles in the bible.
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DesirousOfChange
As posted on another thread, I just breezed through the Annual Meeting video.
Yes!!! AM3 is kicking the GT can down the road. Interestingly, most of what he says is exactly what people have been whispering. (And I always find it interesting that this is how they always address these issues, ie, 1914 being 100 years ago. When they end their silence they tackle it head on and put some good spin on it.)
This time it is: Mom is dead. Grandma is dead.Great grandma is dead. And now I'm as old as they were when they died. Yet, they all felt (as I do) that they were going to live right through the GT and Big A and stroll right on into the Panda Petting Paradise. But instead they all died. No Paradise in sight. Still they are to be commended because they were always "On the Watch" and "living in expectation". AND....... all that doesn't really matter because when they wake up in the resurrection it will be as if they had just slept through the night but awakened into Paradise.
WHAT HE FAILS TO SAY is that these people had put the rest of their lives "on hold". They had not saved and planned to get old because they were assured that they would NEVER get old. But as usual, he blames it all on them. He reads the verse that "no one knows the hour, ...... not even the son". SO............ they ignored the Bible. Yes, my friends, it's all their own fault!!
SO.... HE ALSO FAILS TO SAY that everyone of them was assured by "God's F&D Slave" that they would not die and that they would walk right into Paradise. These people did not all pull this bullshit out of their @$$. We all know that WT Leadership has been beating that drum of "IT'S RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER" for over 100 years! They only pull out that scripture that "no one knows" when it's convenience for them to cover their ass of failures.
So, brothers and sisters, it is still RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER. But the corner is still so damn long that you very well may get old and even die before we make the turn. Amen.
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AM III speech at anual meeting 2021
by Gorb injust downloaded and watched the am iii speech about expetations about the end.. all i think it is ment to temper the high expetations that the rank and file have build up because of the pandemic.. most jw think that the big end will come now.. gb must be anticipating the anti climax that will come.. it is a very rare speech, i can say, and am iii was in a realistic mood, the audience was laughing and he was thinking "you are idiots", so it seems to me.. g..
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DesirousOfChange
I mentioned in another topic, I just breezed through the Annual Meeting video.
OMG! He is kicking the GT can down the road. Interestingly, most of what he says is exactly what people have been whispering. (And I always find it interesting that this is how they always address these issues, ie, 1914 being 100 years ago. When they end their silence they tackle it head on and put some good spin on it.)
This time it is: Mom is dead. Grandma is dead.Great grandma is dead. And now I'm as old as they were when they died. Yet, they all felt (as I do) that they were going to live right through the GT and Big A and stroll right on into the Panda Petting Paradise. But instead they all died. No Paradise in sight. Still they are to be commended because they were always "On the Watch" and "living in expectation". AND....... all that doesn't really matter because when they wake up in the resurrection it will be as if they had just slept through the night but awakened into Paradise.
WHAT HE FAILS TO SAY is that these people had put the rest of their lives "on hold". They had not saved and planned to get old because they were assured that they would NEVER get old. But as usual, he blames it all on them. He reads the verse that "no one knows the hour, ...... not even the son". SO............ they ignored the Bible. Yes, my friends, it's all their own fault!!
SO.... HE ALSO FAILS TO SAY that everyone of them was assured by "God's F&D Slave" that they would not die and that they would walk right into Paradise. These people did not all pull this bullshit out of their @$$. We all know that WT Leadership has been beating that drum of "IT'S RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER" for over 100 years! They only pull out that scripture that "no one knows" when it's convenience for them to cover their ass of failures.
So, brothers and sisters, it is still RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER. But the corner is still so damn long that you very well may get old and even die before we make the turn. Amen.
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Jussie Smollett on trial
by LoveUniHateExams inthere is a trial currently starting - even funnier than the baldwin nonsense.. yes, everyone's favorite actor, singer and hate crime victim is going on trial.. i am, of course, talking about jussie smollett.
he's going on trial for lying to chicago police and wasting their time.. he's obviously as guilty as hell, but i just can't wait for this to unfold.. it's gonna be hilarious ....
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DesirousOfChange
He should serve time.
He blatantly lied in a police report.
The City spent a fortune investigating this hoax while other citizens suffered crimes against them because of so much time wasted on this bullshit.
He stirred the hotbed of racism for his own financial advantage. Of course if that was a crime then Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson and the like would all be in prison.)
He might even enjoy a little prison time.