DesirousOfChange

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  7 Letters Requested--Cost Of Living Survey!

  by Atlantis in

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  cost of living survey worksheet--(assembly hall servants & construction servants).

  cost of living survey worksheet--missionaries.

  cost of living survey worksheet--special pioneers.

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  DesirousOfChange

  bathe only on Saturday? Yikes! The place will stink to high heaven if they use that method.

  But it goes a long way to make sure everyone is "social distancing".
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  Olin Moyle's letter to Judge Rutherford

  by GabeAthouse in

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  olin moyle was an attorney who was invited to bethel headquarters back in the 1930's to assist with legal cases at that time.

  he became disillusioned with the culture at the headquarters and penned the following letter of resignation.

  rutherford replied with an outrageous article in the watchtower provoking moyle to sue.

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  DesirousOfChange

  There is complaint in various places that the Watch Tower studies have degenerated into mere reading lessons.

  What would he say if he saw the absolute JOKE it has now become?
  

  The claim is made, "One can't be a real Bethelite without drinking beer."

  I don't know about now, but it was sure that was in the '70s & '80s when I visited Bethel to visit young guys from our Cong that were there.

  Rutherford was not wrong about everything. Religion IS snare and a racket! (JW's included!)
  

  
  
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  Hi again

  by Lee Marsh in

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  it is nice to see some familiar faces here.

  for those who don't know who i am my last id was lady lee.

  thought i would drop by and say hello; see how people are doing.

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  DesirousOfChange

  Too many of the oldest and best-est poster have moved on. (Hopefully to be EX-EXJWs.)

  So nice to have you drop in. Hope you stay awhile.

  Just began radiation myself. Forty four treatments in all. Only 39 to go! New medical technology has advanced dramatically in the past few years. Wishing the best for you!
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  Mark Sanderson

  by Iamallcool in

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  since mark sanderson of the gb is never married, does he have his own room at warwick or have a roommate?

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  DesirousOfChange

  I thought it was Geoffrey Jackson most recently married.

  IDK for certain.
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  Administering a Blood Transfusion When Directed by a Superior- Jehovah's Witness Policy

  by Ron.W. in

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  administering a blood transfusion when directed by a superior - jehovah's witness policy effective june 15th, 2018. while the hospital liasion committee elders were instructed that they may inform doctors and nurses of this decision, this letter was not allowed to be distributed to anyone outside of hlc members.. as a result of the concealment of this letter, and by virtue of the fact that this information was only to be shared verbally with jehovah's witness medical professionals and others, confusion erupted across the united states and in other branch offices of jehovah's witnesses.

  countless letters were received at watchtower headquarters in new york from concerned jw nurses, paramedics, and others who were instructed verbally on this new policy, but which contradicted existing written policy that had been in effect for many decades.. in addition to letters from witness medical professionals, circuit overseers in the field wrote to the us branch and hospital information desk in new york about the problems caused by this unreleased policy.

  for example, south carolina circuit overseer brandon roberts reported to headquarters that "the majority of the nurses in our circuit were not aware of this updated policy.

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  DesirousOfChange

  This letter only went to Hospital Liaison member and still it was leaked!! DAYMN! There are "insiders" everywhere helping to expose this hypocritical religion Cult.

  The Reddit post shows an email from the JW Hospital Information Desk stating: "However, no copies, pictures, emails, text messages, letters, or anything in writing from the letter is to be given to anyone."

  Just like Hillary Clinton, they haven't learned that, thanks to the internet, nothing is confidential -- nothing is private. This didn't even take any help from Anonymous. Evidently, it's just some HLC member who has had it "up to here" and has awakened.

  I suspect the word going around at WT HQ is: DAMAGE CONTROL! DAMAGE CONTROL!

  Of course, as of this moment, this is unsubstantiated. I guess I am still stuck on that "two witness rule". I'd like confirmation from a 2nd source.
  
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  Introduction

  by joao in

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  i'm joão, from portugal.. i was a jw for about 30 years but i've stopped associating with them for about two years now.

  and, lately, i've decided to dig deep and research about this cult!

  oh boy!

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  DesirousOfChange

  The best method may be to ask questions they don't have answers for, such as why it was the "truth" that the generation of 1914 would be alive through Armageddon, but now the "truth" is entirely different. —Mum

  I was sincerely distraught when first learning TTATT (The Truth About The Truth) to the point of physical illness. I was a True Believer. Prominent elder. Circuit and District speaker. It was a judicial matter that went to two CO’s, the DO, and the Brooklyn Service Dept. Since I knew the real facts of the matter I knew that they all “bought” the lies of the guilty brother involved. How could anyone fool the Holy Spirit? Unless there really is no Divine Direction. As I started digging it was like dominoes and there was no stopping it.

  I began asking my wife (my best friend) to help answer the questions of this dilemma. They were sincere questions that I needed answered. Sadly we realized that everything we had been taught and believed for all of our lives was BS. I resigned from all positions (family needed me) and gradually quit service and meetings. She was much slower to “pull the plug” on it but when we became “outcasts” since we were no longer hob-knobbing with the JW Clergy class she saw that all the live was conditional. Then she did her own research. We learned that our kids had already determined it was all a Cult and we’re just biding their time to make their break

  Remember, Baby Steps!! Don’t go at your wife with a shotgun approach. Bring up one issue disturbing you and wait for her to find the resolution. (Waiting on Jehovah IS NOT a solution.)

  min the meantime but “Combatting Cult Mind Control” by Steven Hassan.

  Good luck!
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  2022-03-12--In Person Meetings--Memorial!

  by Atlantis in

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  2022-03-12--in person meetings--memorial.. .

  https://we.tl/t-wjqs9kruvg.

  atlantis!.

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  DesirousOfChange

  One thing the WT Society is good at is FLIP FLOPS. — St George
  
  You got that one right!!!!
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  Back to the Meetings. It's Offical!

  by pistolpete in

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  yep, the vacation is over, it's time to go to work------for free!

  😭😢😓😰😡.

  https://www.jw.org/en/news/jw/.

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  DesirousOfChange

  They don't want another year of dismal Memorial attendance.
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  Hi people!

  by ozziepost in

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  hi guys, owyergoin?

  (that’s australian for youse foreigners!

  haven’t called in quite a while but just called by to say “i’m still standing and still enjoying shiraz !.

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  DesirousOfChange

  Joe Ratherflawed ~ Ozzie

  LOL Good one!

  We determined to spend time in earnest Bible study and bought simply hundreds of Bible commentaries, dictionaries, audio tapes and spent a year determining what is truth.

  One has to admire anyone who dug deep enough on their own to discover TTATT after having had years of indoctrination by family and The Cult. So much easier today with the books of Ray Franz and websites like JWFacts and this place to "congregate".

  Thanks for sharing your story!
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  Hi people!

  by ozziepost in

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  hi guys, owyergoin?

  (that’s australian for youse foreigners!

  haven’t called in quite a while but just called by to say “i’m still standing and still enjoying shiraz !.

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  DesirousOfChange

  I'm a new arrival here compared to you.

  My sympathy regarding the loss of your wife. My wife and I both have had some serious health issues and thus we have talked about that "inevitable event". We've even acquired cemetery plots. It all still seems a little surreal since for all of our lives we were told (and I guess believed) that we would live forever. Of course, we were also told we would never start school, or graduate from school, or get married, or have children (in this system of things). Yet, all of these things have come to pass and now we have grandchildren. So, I suppose somewhere along the way we already had some doubts about the other promises ie, living forever.

  I would find it interesting if you shared a little of your "story" and I think other Newbies would as well, How is it that you showed up here 21 years ago? What was that first doubt or first event that opened the floodgates of TTATT?

  The greatest revenge is living a happy & successful life!

  Hopefully you've gotten your "revenge".