DesirousOfChange

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  Beards- just told by an elder

  by dothemath in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know this subject has been talked about lots over the years, just thought i would share a recent finding from canada.. while visiting with a group of friends, an elder (don’t recall how the subject came up) mentioned the local body had voted to allow brothers with beards be allowed to give talks from the platform.

  (it was a very close vote).

  the direction given was for each congregation to decide for themselves if that is now acceptable.. so some congregations will be for, and for many it will not.. it’ll probably be a long time before we see any pictures on the watchtower where they’re allowing this though..

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  DesirousOfChange

  What publicatoin?
  
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  “This generation will by no means pass away.”

  by Fisherman in

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  for argument sake let’s assume that this verse should apply to 1914. what are your thoughts on generation?.

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  Let's review: "It's a Cult!"
  
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  PIMO Bethel Elder Has Special Message & Speaks out

  by Newly Enlightened in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a pimo elder at bethel has come forward with a special message posted on reddit.. https://www.reddit.com/gallery/v9mgao.

  the dated pictures attached are "proof conclusive" that this is for real.

  no outside guests are allowed inside bethel at this time.

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  Is Billy the Bethelite the source?

  Did he finally make it to Bethel Elder?
  
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  Belgium: court of appeal acquits the Watchtower

  by yalbmert99 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the court of appeal of belgium acquits the watchtower for its shunning policy, ex-jw patrick haeck previously won.

  he will see with his lawyers what to do next.

  june 7, 2022..

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  DesirousOfChange

  Sorry to hear that news.
  
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  Jesus is Michael the Archangel

  by Fisherman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  only jesus has the power and authority to defeat satan and kick him out of heaven:.

  “now have come to pass the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our god and the authority of his christ, because the accuser of our brothers has been hurled down, who accuses them day and night before our god.”.

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  Who gives a rat's @$$?

  Is Santa really Satan?
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  2. scandals

  original reddit post (removed).

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  I'd have never, Never, NEVER (in a million years) believed there would ever be enough interest in Lloyd to generate over 300 pages of comments.
  
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  Michael's Story (JW commits suicide)

  by RolRod in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is the story of michael.

  a 4th generation jw.

  elder, husband, father with relational ties to marley cole.. pimo, stepped down as elder, and the body went after him tooth and nail.

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  Such a destructive organization ...

  So true. I detest government meddling in anything (because they usually f*&k it up), but this is one thing that I'd like to see so-called "hate crimes" legislation or their failure to respect Freedom of Religion cost them their tax exempt status. I cannot see that happening in the US right now. Religion is "untouchable" for politicians for they fear it will cost them re-election, but I can see some of the stricter laws on these things elsewhere being used to "come down" on them.

  Follow The Money! You have to hit them where it hurts the most. Their bank account.
  
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  Can you list the positive points of being a JW as against the negative points of being a JW in your experience ?

  by smiddy3 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was a twenty y/old when i converted to the jw religion and was a problem drinker and i was a chain smoker .when i was baptized at a circuit assembly a year later , my conversion and change in lifestyle was given as an example of the effectiveness of incidental witnessing to the audience.. so i can point to the 2 positives becoming a jw .. 1.i gave up smoking.

  2.i gave up drinking for a while ,but because i still had association with my wife`s and my family who were not jw`s ,i learnt to control my social drinking when i started again.. and i have been a responsible drinker ever since ,even though i left the religion 29 years ago.. the negative points of being a jw in my 32 years of being one ?

  are far too great to list here .. love to hear your thoughts..

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  I think there are good things that can be said about being a JW and living by those "rules" does have advantages. I know of people's lives that have been changed dramatically for the better when becoming a JW and giving up booze, drugs, etc.. Sure they could have gotten that elsewhere . . . . . but they didn't.There is also the benefit of having a network of people willing to come to your aid in a crisis. IMO that is RARE elsewhere.
  

  My primary gripe is the harmful affect being a JW has on personal achievement, ie, education and pursuing things that make one successful in life. One cannot give all of their time and effort to an Organization (see there, I did NOT say Cult) at the expense of one's own welfare without it having serious negative affects on their financial well-being and otherwise (even the matter of pursuing work that is "doing good" for "society". And then there are also the issues of being an "oddball" in society and the health risks (ie, blood transfusion ban).

  But bottom line, there ARE some positive factors/benefits as a JW (IMHO).
  
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  14 kids dead and one teacher at Texas school shooting.

  by jojorabbit in

  1. social
  2. current

  another shooting, this time 14 kids dead more wounded and a teacher dead.

  i am all for the second amendment and this does not change my mind.

  but i do hate this kind of thing, makes my stomach turn.

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  I believe that the bigger issue here is that we do not punish illegal ownership as harshly as we should,

  Seems to me that we don't "punish" illegal anything now.

  Also, I had to stop and take note of the commenter who compared abortions to shooting deaths.

  Over 600,000 unborn babies "murdered" vs fewer than 25,000 homicides by all means, and about 500 deaths from mass shooting incidents (worst year, 2019).

  We need a new bumper sticker: "(Only) Some Lives Matter"
  
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  Thanks for this site!

  by Foolednomore in

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  thanks for this site and six screens of watchtower.

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  DesirousOfChange

  Somehow I doubt Simon appreciates the two sites being linked in the same comment.