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  Myth of 1914

  by peacefulpete in

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  the wt engages in history revisionism when insisting the world changed overnight in 1914. in fact the european power struggles that came to a head were centuries old.

  millions of lives had been lost in the wars of the 19th century, with the world a powder keg the years prior to the assassination of franz ferdinand in june 1914 which is often said, albeit rather arbitrarily, as the start of the war that escalated over the next 4 years into the great war.

  take a look at these two pages and ask if the wt's interpretation of history seems accurate to you.

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  DesirousOfChange

  I tried to read through this, but frankly, I've already wasted years on that 1914 bullshite and I just can't do it any more.
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  So after many years I’m back for a bit

  by truthsetsonefree in

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  i have been out for a long time now and have kept busy.

  but tonight my jw mom asked me what is happening in norway.

  so i researched and wow!

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  WT Ruining Members' Futures

  by HiddlesWife in

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  what i mean by the title of this thread is what has happened to a relative of mine, one who is really upset about this factor:.

  this relative is a distant cousin on my mother's side of the family.

  she studied as a child and got baptized at 14 1/2 years old.

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  DesirousOfChange

  This somewhat describes my parents. They put off doing anything financially advantageous or risky (IE, going into business) be The End was sooooo very, very near. Did not want to be "materialistic". No pensions and thus worked well into their 70's. Fortunately for them, they inherited a nice stash (a couple of times).

  Occasionally i think about the fact that this could have been us if we'd have repeated the same mistakes. We were zealous JDubs. We did a lot for "Kingdom Interests". Lots of "investment" -- money, time, sweat, etc. Fortunately, I realized early on that wealthy JDubs were revered. (When you're rich they think you really know. ~ Tevye) Thus, I had no qualms about working with the goal to make money (vs just getting by and pioneering). I worked for a couple very successful businessmen early in life and they were my role models. Here we are today, outcasts in the JDub World (tho not DFd or DAd), but have heard back through the grapevine several sneers about us enjoying our "Paradise" now.

  The greatest revenge is living a happy and successful life!
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  Anthony Morris responds to Norway's denial of financial aid

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  https://direkte.vg.no/nyhetsdognet/news/jehovas-vitner-nektes-statsstoette.5z-pnao3e?utm_source=share-btn.

  08:20 27.1.kristoffer solberg.

  jehovah's witnesses denied state aid.

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  DesirousOfChange

  

  Wish there was a handwriting analyst here.

  Does this signature say anything to you? It's not just a sloppy writing of the letters. There are no attempts at actually scribing characters. It's just scribble. Is he just too important to actually put his signature to this (and it may not be only this)?
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  Did YOU have 'princes' in YOUR congregation?

  by BoogerMan in

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  lol .

  w54 5/1 p. 277 par.

  17 - some of the “great crowd” are now serving in position of “princes,” .

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  DesirousOfChange

  Some of the “great crowd” are now serving in position of “princes,”

  
  This is sure highlighted at Elders' School. It gives the lowly, successful-at-nothing-else, polyester-suit-wearing, window-washing big shots a Woody and a feeling of being special.

  
  
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  JWs near of losing their status a religious organization in Norway

  by Festus in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  last spring norweigian state refused to give public contribution to jws (religious organisations can apply that in norway and previously wtbs has been granted that).

  the decision was caused because of practise of disfellowshpiping.. now there is a new twist.. 25.10.2022 authorites in norway send a letter to wtbs and told them that they have four weeks to fix that practise.

  if they don't do that they will loose their status as a religiouse organisation.. intrestingly jws did not "understand" what authorites meant by that and requested more time.. how can they not understand?

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  DesirousOfChange

  Soon you can expect no disfellowshippings in Norway.

  There will simply be a lot of "voluntary disassociations because of one's actions or attitudes".
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  Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave?

  by Godlyman in

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  2. bible

  if anyone were to come up to you claiming that they are the faithful and discreet slave, how would you go about proving them to be false, based upon scripture?.

  estephan.

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  DesirousOfChange

  I think you are here to "witness" to us about YOUR religious ideas.

  IF SO: Don't go away mad, just go away. Nobody cares.

  
  
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  I`m going out on a limb here ! ....PIMO

  by smiddy3 in

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  2. friends

  pimo , as i said i`m going out on a limb here and i might upset some people ,but i really don`t think this is a real strategy that works and doesn`t help the person who is still in.. while you may be doing this to keep the peace in the household and keep relations somewhat stable in the family arrangement ,it`s not helping the person who is still under the control of wt/gb to break free from it ,and isn`t that what you would really like to happen ?.

  and are their children involved as well ?

  that`s another issue ,the longer they are subject to this control the harder it will be for them to disengage get free.. maybe you should re-evaluate what you could do more to help your partner / spouse or whatever to free themselves from this bondage they have involved themselves in.. [ of course their may be others who are quite happy to have their partners/mates under the control of the wt/gb.

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  DesirousOfChange

  I feel the need to contact the elders in order to explain my circumstances.

  Simply explain to the elders that you do not believe in the DFS and "problem solved". They will announce: "Estephan is no longer one of JW's." See there, no more confusion.
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  Am out of line for being pissed off.

  by Riley in

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  2. experiences

  yesterday i got a call from the my seven year old sons school.

  they told me he was quite sick and should take him home.

  of course i am the contact because she makes no effort know where her phone is or if it is even charged.

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  DesirousOfChange

  I'd tell her that her ass is at home the rest of the evening or even rest of the week with the sick kid. Screw the CO visit.
  
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  1975 selling of houses

  by Paul Bonanno in

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  2. friends

  as 1975 was approaching, many witnesses sold their property.

  do you know about specific cases that are willing to share their experience of doing so?.

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  DesirousOfChange

  Yet, no one seems to remember what was said about 1975. I heard one newly baptized JW comment during the WT Study that his Bible Study instructor told him the claims about 1975 were just Apostate Falsehoods. That WT Conductor (old enough to know the real story) just let the comment stand without any correction.

  You tell the lie. I'll swear to it.

  The sad fact is you have to be over 60yo to even remember any of the RahRah leading up to 1975. Those who do have either left, or they have decided they have no other place to go since they have so much "invested" in JWism.