DesirousOfChange

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  Chance or intelligent design?

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

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  cofty could you answer how the single cell came about by chance?.

  i know the argument for complexity in nature says natural selection over billions of years but this could not explain the complexity of the single cell the building blocks of life?.

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  DesirousOfChange

  Cofty— Deja vu. It goes like this every time, doesn’t it! I, for one, appreciate reading your knowledgeable comments.

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  why are we interested in what is going on in the JW

  by enoughisenough in

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  for the most of us, we have left the jws...and even though we are no longer jw, many of us are still interested in their beliefs, doctrines and practices as currently practiced.

  i was trying to sort out in my mind why i still care about what they are doing.

  i think the answer to that is a hope that something will develop in the jws that will wake up a lot of others, and selfishly, a lot of my friends.

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  DesirousOfChange

  Because our lives are still affected if we have active family members who have no awakened.
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  Physically in mentally agnostic ie sitting on the fence

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

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  2. bible

  hi everyone i’m not pimi or pimo i’m pima.. i don’t think the gb have everything right but i’m sitting on the fence that maybe they do some things.. if the great trib starts i will jump that side of the fence.. this is a definite little sneaky advantage dodging but even by their own doctrine last min some could come in.. i suspect many are like me.. i spent years in bethel and am very disappointed and disillusioned by it all.. but at the end of the day i love the bible and think it is the word of god and i don’t see any other religion that comes as close to what jesus describes his true followers or who are fulfilling mat 24:14..

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  DesirousOfChange

  Cofty, as I recall you at one time uploaded about 30 files on various topics regarding evolution. If exB is really interested in expanding his reading/knowledge on the subject, I think those would be a great place to start.
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  Breaking News: Anthony Morris III no longer serving on the Governing Body

  by WingCommander in

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  this has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.

  this is not a joke.

  anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!

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  DesirousOfChange

  Hey, Magnum!

  We might feel differently if we’d have gotten out while we were in our 30’s still plenty of time to “start over”. Finding TTATT in your 50’s or 60’s is a tough time to awaken.
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  Every JW Elder In State Of Pennsylvania Subpoenaed

  by JW GoneBad in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  breaking news!

  every jehovah’s witness elder in the 67 counties of pennsylvania are being given notice by state attorney's office to turn over any & all documents relating to child sex abuse cases!

  watch attached video beginning at time-stamp 101:00...pay particular attention to what is said after 103:00.this is wild!.

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  DesirousOfChange

  How would they get all the names of current elders? Or, was this a "blanket" subpoena for "All Current Elders". I could see a lot of resignations happening.
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  Jw shot and killed in field service!

  by nowwhat? in

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  another example of jehovah protects his people except when he doesn't.

  https://www.wifr.com/2023/02/12/rockford-police-54-year-old-man-shot-killed-vehicle/.

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  DesirousOfChange

  When is America going to bring some sensible gun laws? .?

  We have a law against murder. How did that help?

  There are reports nearly everyday of citizens having to protect themselves from a violent assailant who are successful in doing so because they have armed themselves -- legally!
  
  
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  Exercise Patience Regional Convention

  by Rattigan350 in

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  2. beliefs

  the theme of the in person convention this year is "exercise patience".

  looking at the convention map, they are really using their assembly halls and they are using smaller civic centers or city arena.

  no more huge stadiums.. are they not expecting a great crowd?

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  Exercise Patience Regional Convention

  by Rattigan350 in

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  2. beliefs

  the theme of the in person convention this year is "exercise patience".

  looking at the convention map, they are really using their assembly halls and they are using smaller civic centers or city arena.

  no more huge stadiums.. are they not expecting a great crowd?

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  mentally ill/delusional or con artist?

  by enoughisenough in

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  maybe this has been discussed in the past and i wasn't here... what do you think?

  are the gb members knowingly pulling a con, or do they have delusions of grandeur?

  i will go out on a limb here to say that i think they are con artist.

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  DesirousOfChange

  I don't know if there is one answer. For example, having met Sam Herd I see where he likely is an "honest" believer. It's all he has ever known and frankly, he isn't the sharpest of the group. He is not the "New Light" instigator.

  However, it should be quite clear that "somebody at the top" damn well knows it's BS. Consider the many publications that are now out of stock because they were caught lying and misquoting references and inserting ellipses that changed the meaning of the quote. I'm not sure anyone of the GB actually had a hand in such because frankly, I think the GB are kept busy being figureheads. They might have just rubber stamped the draft copy of said publications. Or, actually believe that some young guy in the Writing Dept discovered some wonderful information and quotes.

  Do we know who is really running things?
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  How Will They End 1914 Teaching?

  by EmptyInside in

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  i'm sure this has been discussed, but 1914 has to go away.

  instead of, the overlapping generation teaching, they should have just ditched 1914. .

  they should have done that a long time ago with 1975. it's the last of the teachings in the charles taze russell era.. i'm thinking they just will stop talking about it, and it will be out of the mind of the rank and file loyal witnesses .

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  DesirousOfChange

  With 2-3 new GB members and a couple of the old guys with one foot in the grave, be prepared for lots of New Light soon. That will most assuredly change the dynamics of the group.

  According to Ray Franz, they need a vote of 2/3 majority to make any doctrinal adjustments, thus the :changing of the guard" might be the time for it.