DesirousOfChange

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  July 2023 Study Watchtower - Great Tribulation is coming soooooooooooooon!

  by BoogerMan in

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  is this the "great tribulation" which jesus warned he would bring upon the corrupt christian congregations worldwide, (revelation 2:22; 7:14) or is it the same 1st century g.t.

  which he said would never occur again?

  (matthew 24:21).

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  WHAT DO Jehovah's Witnesses believe?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  2. beliefs

  please add or correct the following written by helge kare fauskanger.

  "for starters, imagine a distinctly insular form of protestant fundamentalism minus the trinity (god and jesus are held to be separate beings, and the holy spirit is god's active power rather than a person).

  note: since the witnesses want to think of their faith as something absolutely unique, they themselves will not agree that they are either protestant or fundamentalist.. * very important to call god by his proper name of jehovah, and as noted, you must not get him mixed up with jesus.

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  No need to personally ask an active JW. They don’t know what they believe.
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  Can watchtower really continue with cart preaching?

  by Hellothere in

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  can watchtower really continue with cart preaching?

  it has become like zoom.

  we're people attending zoom not wanting attend halls.

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  DesirousOfChange

  It's just "busy work", as is the door-to-door ministry. At least the cart work doesn't aggravate the community as much since people can just ignore them (which is all the better as far as the witnesses sitting there is concerned).

  And do not forget all the letter writing that's going on. Painfully slow and often illegible, I suspect, hand written letters that are quickly tossed by recipients.

  I'm fairly certain the GB (and the entire Borg) is currently "on hold" counting on Armageddon to bail them out.......soon. Very soon.
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  Been years since Ive gone - should I bother with a letter?

  by BeaverEater in

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  2. friends

  sig other is half assed still in, one family member is in... its been years... wondering if i should just let it be or just call up hq and say i resign... i will be pissed if they announce shit at the kh, though i dont even remember the last one i went to... lol.

  for me, its none of anyone elses business... thoughts?.

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  NO!

  That allows them to close the "case" on you vs having them waste time when the CO discusses inactive ones wih them.
  
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  Predict JW life in future

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a sister said the other day at the ministry group “”what is all this talk that the end is still some way off” she said she has been waiting for decades and she was told there is no way it would take this long.

  some others said in an annoyed kind of way yes they would have made different decisions decades ago if they knew the end still would not have come by 2023.. how will the majority react in a few more decades time when the end still hasn’t come?.

  why all that talk of sense of urgency decades ago?.

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  I wonder how many are physically in but mentally at least doubting the GB

  I believe there are LOTS of them! They just know that they should NOT express such doubts among their JW friends/family or they risk being seen as weak or disloyal.
  
  
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  armageddon in 2034????? yeh right !

  by xbro in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  is the watchtower predicting the.

  end by 2034 through subtle hints?.

  the watchtower, december 15, 2003, pages 14 - 19. please be patient while the web page loads page scans of the watchtower article.

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  DesirousOfChange

  I do recall some pontification about this article way back then.

  JW's are always trying to pin down a date.
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  The (Shunned) Woman at the Well

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i always found the account of the "woman at the well" to be particulary interesting.

  this unknown shunned woman of ill-repute was specifically sought out and chosen by jesus.

  why?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=el7dzonv3iy&ab_channel=michaelpapale.

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  I always said it was a scriptural example of Jesus "yielding" the law/rules (to not associate with Samaritans), when someone asked about speaking to or associating with a DF person. For example, when someone had died and one of their family members was DFd. Maybe the RULES say to shun them, but Jesus showed us there would be some reasons to "break" the rules.
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  Predict JW life in future

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a sister said the other day at the ministry group “”what is all this talk that the end is still some way off” she said she has been waiting for decades and she was told there is no way it would take this long.

  some others said in an annoyed kind of way yes they would have made different decisions decades ago if they knew the end still would not have come by 2023.. how will the majority react in a few more decades time when the end still hasn’t come?.

  why all that talk of sense of urgency decades ago?.

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  I think there are many long time JW’s with such feelings. Some are maybe bold enough to say it, but only in a whisper. If they speak about it to loud or too often, they’ll find themselves in a back room meeting with a couple elders.
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  Court case Jehovah's Witnesses Norway kicked off

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://cne.news/article/2827-court-case-jehovah-s-witnesses-norway-kicked-off.

  norwegian jehovah's witnesses are in court this wednesday and thursday.

  they are fighting the government's decision to remove their registration as a religious community.. .

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  Is it possible now to have been announced from the platform as "no longer a jw" (disassociated) and not know it? (no letter or call).

  It was common practice on occasion ie a JW compromising on neutrality to simply verbally "spread the word" that so-and-so should be treated as DF'd. They did not want to DF someone for joining the military or voting as that could be construed very negatively by some Governments. So, for the record, said person was simply choosing not to associate but never had any official position taken against them.
  
  
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  Court case Jehovah's Witnesses Norway kicked off

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://cne.news/article/2827-court-case-jehovah-s-witnesses-norway-kicked-off.

  norwegian jehovah's witnesses are in court this wednesday and thursday.

  they are fighting the government's decision to remove their registration as a religious community.. .

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  DesirousOfChange

  For now it seems to me like a way for them to have something technical that allows some association without changing anything meaningful in their policies. Most JWs will never see a Flock book.

  Many devout JW's already "go beyond" what has been written regarding shunning. Many already shun "inactive" members who have had NO judicial determinations (faders). They simply no longer show up for meetings or field circus. Still, the super-righteous JW's are shunning them.