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  When JW.org drops 607BCE...

  by Nathan Natas in

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  probably everyone else thought of this long ago, but i, being an "independent thunker" thunk of it just a coupla weeks ago.. we all know that since the year zero (on the fredfranzian calendar) the wtb&ts has defied archaeology and insisted that jerusalem was destroyed in 607 bce, even though the physical evidence shows that 587 bce is a more likely date.

  in fact, the book "the gentile times reconsidered: have jehovah's witnesses been wrong all along about 607 bce?

  " by carl olof jonsson and rud persson made this conversation public.. it is a difference of 20 years.

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  DesirousOfChange

  When was the last time you saw all that 2520 years mumbo jumbo in print?

  As already stated in a recent thread on this forum, it is specifically covered in ’Lesson 32’ of their current ‘Bible study’ textbook.

  I had to read this a couple times to realize how great I should feel about this reply to my question. I don't know how long this "Bible study textbook" has been in print (or should I say, has been available), but it made me realize that I NO LONGER AM KEEPING UP WITH THE JW DOCTRINE BULLSH|T. I can't even tell you the name of that textbook!

  I suspect it is in Lesson 32 (vs Lesson 2) because it gives them time to get their hooks into the new victim before they pull out this ridiculous "doctrine".

  The greatest revenge is living a happy & successful life!
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  When JW.org drops 607BCE...

  by Nathan Natas in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  probably everyone else thought of this long ago, but i, being an "independent thunker" thunk of it just a coupla weeks ago.. we all know that since the year zero (on the fredfranzian calendar) the wtb&ts has defied archaeology and insisted that jerusalem was destroyed in 607 bce, even though the physical evidence shows that 587 bce is a more likely date.

  in fact, the book "the gentile times reconsidered: have jehovah's witnesses been wrong all along about 607 bce?

  " by carl olof jonsson and rud persson made this conversation public.. it is a difference of 20 years.

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  DesirousOfChange

  Are you sure that WT hasn't already abandoned 607?

  When was the last time you saw all that 2520 years mumbo jumbo in print?

  What percentage of active JW's do you think could Splane it? (Get it? "Splane" it like David Splane traying to "splane" the overlapping generational BS?)

  [Sarcasm alert]

  Maybe I should splane I'm in a funky mood this morning. Must be the lack of sunlight yesterday.
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  I am not redsetter, here is his message for you

  by redsetter2 in

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  you read this correctly.

  as i explained in an earlier post, i am a "ghostwriter" for the original resetter.

  i'm a woman, a pimo regular pioneer working for my friend who was redsetter1 on reddit.

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  DesirousOfChange

  "Does anyone really believe posters like this?"
  When he can do the secret handshake, I'll believe him wholeheartedly!

  
  
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  When JW.org drops 607BCE...

  by Nathan Natas in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  probably everyone else thought of this long ago, but i, being an "independent thunker" thunk of it just a coupla weeks ago.. we all know that since the year zero (on the fredfranzian calendar) the wtb&ts has defied archaeology and insisted that jerusalem was destroyed in 607 bce, even though the physical evidence shows that 587 bce is a more likely date.

  in fact, the book "the gentile times reconsidered: have jehovah's witnesses been wrong all along about 607 bce?

  " by carl olof jonsson and rud persson made this conversation public.. it is a difference of 20 years.

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  DesirousOfChange

  Celebrated WT scholars have long championed the date 607 BCE for the destruction of Jerusalem

  “WT scholars”

  NOW THATS FUNNY!!
  
  
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  Advice on fade?

  by NotNorwich in

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  2. friends

  hello, i’ve just joined here and am hoping for some advice.

  i was baptised a long time ago but left soon after (da).. i recently returned and have a bible study.

  was reinstated about a year ago.

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  DesirousOfChange

  Always keep quiet around Jw's they will rat you out in a heart beat.

  And they will think you should thank them for trying to “save your (everlasting) life”!
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  Advice on fade?

  by NotNorwich in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hello, i’ve just joined here and am hoping for some advice.

  i was baptised a long time ago but left soon after (da).. i recently returned and have a bible study.

  was reinstated about a year ago.

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  DesirousOfChange

  I’m wondering whether to just come out with it or to just fade.

  If you just come out and tell them what your thinking and that you have doubts, that may totally screw up your "fade". I assume that since you have managed to get reinstated, you do not want to do anything to jeopardize that so that you can maintain a relationship with JW family. It is especially dangerous to express doubts about the GB. "Don't you believe that the GB are the arrangement Jehovah is using to direct His Organization?" Answer that wrong and you're outta there again!

  Probably best if you continue to play the "MOM IS SICK" card and tell them your schedule is SO BUSY at the moment that you are SO STRESSED OUT. Thank them for their love and concern and promise you'll see them real soon -- just as soon as you are able to get back in person.

  
  
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  Will Watchtower and Jehovah's Witnesses suffer the same fate as the Catholic Church?

  by Balaamsass2 in

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  northern california, 4/2/2024.

  "sacramento catholic diocese files for bankruptcy reorganization in wake of abuse lawsuits".

  https://www.yahoo.com/news/sacramento-catholic-diocese-files-bankruptcy-160421282.html.

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  DesirousOfChange

  I think WT is doing their best to avoid this same outcome. If more US States relax the Statute of Limitations on civil suits for past CSA the potential of it taking down WT financially increases.
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  I am not redsetter, here is his message for you

  by redsetter2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  you read this correctly.

  as i explained in an earlier post, i am a "ghostwriter" for the original resetter.

  i'm a woman, a pimo regular pioneer working for my friend who was redsetter1 on reddit.

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  Was it Designed?

  by Jeffro in

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  the jw website is currently featuring a piece: the shell of the diabolical ironclad beetle​—was it designed?

  it is part of their regular tedious 'was it designed?

  ' series that purports that very very specific animal species must have been specifically designed because of some seemingly amazing feature.. but they seem completely unaware that this directly contradicts their notion that only very broad 'kinds' were required on the mythical 'ark'.

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  DesirousOfChange

  This is what you get when it's dreamed up by a bunch of under-educated morons who got their college degree equivalent from reading the Awake! magazine.
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  2024-April Shepherd The Flock Of God Manual.

  by Atlantis in

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  2024-april-elder-manual.. .

  https://files.accessjw.org/s/qpctw2hg87t9hxx .

  grandpa!.

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  DesirousOfChange

  All the weird hard line stuff is still in the PDF.

  Surely they do not think their secret book is secret.

  Angus Stewart, the Counselor (or whatever his official title is) in the ARC hearings knew the Elders Book better than any of the elders that were in the Hot Seat. That guy was VERY impressive.

  No more speaking out of both sides of their mouth -- their secret rules are "on record" now.