https://youtu.be/b4ydzsyycve?si=eahti8ccv5hekpqv.
so in the first clip i posted few days ago this young couple especially the sister are struggling with being committed active jws, very likely pioneers, and also following harmful advice from the watchtower not to have a family or higher education ot a better job.
now as things worsen they find it hard to cope.
I do recall a young couple asking us about having children in "The Last Days". We already had our kids so to late to say know, but we referred them to a couple that we know made the decision to "wait until after Armageddon". This couple was now in the late 50s and we even were not sure if they had regrets.
A couple of months later, our young friends announced that they were expecting their first child.
I'm guessing they got some good advice from the older JW couple.
have some time thinking about my recent and less recent personal history because of the summer holiday.. the 90's crossed my mind.
the years i became pimo.
a friend, a room mate during the 1993 moscow international convention, went to university.
This Organization is now for the ignorant and willful suckers . . .
Or those "faking it" for the social aspects. Ignore what they say and concentrate on how they live. How many JWs LIVE like "it's right around the corner"?
sea breeze: @nicolau,i stated my case rather succiently, which you failed to address.
if you have a better solution to the problem of evil than what jesus offers, then why don't you present that in a new topic?.
pathetic diversion.
The cognitive dissonance must be extremely painful that believers have only once recourse:
good pick?
bad pick?
helpful to president biden?
They are not voting for the person with the best policies for Americans.
Of course they are voting, but Dominion picks which votes to count.
reading about jw.org rules changes these days gives me a sad observation.. everything what "is" today, can be gone tomorrow.. that makes it all worthless.
you were an elder, searching for evidence, and proof to df a person.
because he or she was not humble enough.
Everything what "is" today, can be gone tomorrow.
Yep! All it will take is another governmental authority threatening their tax exempt status and they'll modify their procedure language regarding the procedure to attempt to comply find a loophole to the statute.
sea breeze: @nicolau,i stated my case rather succiently, which you failed to address.
if you have a better solution to the problem of evil than what jesus offers, then why don't you present that in a new topic?.
pathetic diversion.
We were discussing Gods refusal or inability to come to the aid of people with specific illnesses or those in imminent danger.-- Sea Breeze
Once again we have:
As I stated in the original string of posts that was hijacked,
I would love to see EVIDENCE.
At one time (as a devout JW) I truly believed in God answering prayers. I was many times convinced of my own prayers being answered (getting the result that I wanted).
If you have enough confidence then do as Elijah did (1 Kings 18). Slaughter a bull and place it on an altar and wait for [your] God to consume it with fire (without you striking the match). Are you convinced you would get the same result as did Elijah? Or, would your God leave you standing as Baal did to his worshippers?
PUT UP OR SHUT UP!
i was asking why jws won't sing any church hymns even if they were doctrinally correct.
jws asked me in response if i would sing any of their songs.. dan watkins wrote .
its a hilarious misunderstanding, if it does not come from the watchtower bible and tract society, then it is effectively considered as coming from satan.
The new songs are like those from a bad Disney movie (that would be any recent Disney movie).
https://youtu.be/np05twylal8?si=wjcdevvpxmlwxb2p.
shame is an ancient form of control.
shame is the mechanism used to control behaviour.
If you have a better solution to the problem of evil than what Jesus offers, then why don't YOU present that in a new topic? - Sea Breeze
I kinda thought Nic offered the same solution to the problem of evil as does Jesus:
I would love to see EVIDENCE that proves otherwise.
.........that little miss muffet sat on her tuffet eating only curds!.
no way!
!.
Somebody is bored.
we have lonely old folks and even some not so old.. they know the gb are not who they claim to be.. but they stay in the congregation because they are lonely.
i wonder what percentage of jws this is the case, i would guess a lot.
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Revisiting this post and catching up on the comments.
I think all the older ones begin to have doubts as they come to see they will not be among "millions now living [who] will never die". They realize all the dates that were promised to them have failed and they too, will die. Younger ones who are still blinded my still believe it will come.....eventually. Older ones who claim they still believe all that nonsense are just not telling the truth. Or they are delusional (still).
