DesirousOfChange

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  Do You Think That Belonging To Certain Political Parties Suggests You Are Uneducated or Poor?

  by minimus in

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  i hear some people say that if you are a republican or democrat that you must not be very educated, intelligent or monetarily stable.

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  do you think it’s proper to paint any person as less than favorable because of their political opinions?

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  DesirousOfChange

  I do think having any kind of faith in any politician (or either party) might suggest you are uneducated or poor.........
  
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  Did Jeruselm fall in 587 or 586 BCE?

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i came across this article written in 2004 by an evangelical.. “when did jerusalem fall?”, rodger young, journal of the evangelical society [jets], 47/1 (march 2004), 21-38.. http://www.rcyoung.org/articles/jerusalem.pdf .

  these are the conclusions of the 18-page analysis.

  (1) jerusalem fell in the fourth month (tammuz) of 587 bc.

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  DesirousOfChange

  WHO GIVES A FLYING F**K?

  Ok. Sorry. In the past, I would have devoured this kind of post here. Now, I just don't give a sh!t.

  PLEASE tell me that this means I have "moved on" from worrying about refuting JW bullshit?

  I JUST DON'T CARE ANYMORE!

  Don't you realize there are more important things to deal with? The earth is going to melt down or burn down and all life will be lost if we don't all go out and buy electric cars, and quit eating beef (because cows fart, ya know), etc

  Already I changed DOC (Desirous of Change) to DOUBTFUL of Change. I guess I need another meaning for the acronym -- DON'T (?) CARE, Maybe just "DC"?
  
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  New Massachusetts Bill ProposesTo Fine or Jail Someone For Calling Someone a Bitch!

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  and if you call someone a bitch , you would be fined 150 dollars the first offense and second is 200 plus possible jail time..

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  DesirousOfChange

  Son of a Bitch!

  How ridiculous is that!
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  Recommend a STEVE HASSAN book for me

  by Zoos in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my nephew has awakened but is still at the beginning of his journey.

  he doesn't want to leave his mother (my sister) behind and is trying to help her think critically.

  (no chance of him being dfed because he was never baptized).

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  DesirousOfChange

  I put off ready "Combatting......" for a long time. SO SORRY THAT I DID THAT!

  It makes JWs look like the Poster Child for Cults! There is a "plan". There is a "strategy". It absolutely CANNOT be a coincidence that JWs perfectly align up with everything single identifying factor of a Cult! Those at "the top: know EXACTLY what they are doing to control the masses of Sheeple.

  Don't put if off. Order it now!
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  Do You Think That Belonging To Certain Political Parties Suggests You Are Uneducated or Poor?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i hear some people say that if you are a republican or democrat that you must not be very educated, intelligent or monetarily stable.

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  do you think it’s proper to paint any person as less than favorable because of their political opinions?

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  DesirousOfChange

  Right! TD, it’s crazy that for some people if you don’t conform to their beliefs, you are disgusting.

  I've never seen it as polarized as it is today. There are some real "haters" on both sides of the debate.
  
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  First Xmas? Or older traditions? 🎄

  by Theonlyoneleft in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  is anyone here doing their first xmas this year?🎄🎄.

  i love xmas!

  almost around the corner and i’ve started thinking of all the prep needed for family time.

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  DesirousOfChange

  We have discussed that we really have no desire to celebrate Christmas. Perhaps we "missed it" as children raised as JWs, but I don't recall that being the case. As far as our kids, I don't think they do either. They never "missed out" on anything. It just wasn't given as "Christmas" gifts. I still think it's way too commercialized to the point of being the most extreme example of "greed" on a regular basis.

  JMHO
  
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  Normal Family Relations Continue...My Arse....

  by HiddenPimo in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i think that the big issue here is the double standard based on the location of the family members - if they are 'immediate' meaning they live at home in the same dwelling under the same roof then it's ok but if you are like me and living on your own, your family will absolutely avoid contact with you as that is the real jw policy..the old canada court trial and recent swedish news are totally out of context and the jw attorneys are complete tools and filthy liars....

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  DesirousOfChange

  I think the youtube video of the WT attorney in the Canadian Court allows JWs who WANT to have association with their family members to do so, less it be said the WT Rep was LYING under oath in Court.

  If someone (ie, an elder) challenges you on that, suggest to them that they are behind on the current position and that this is the NEWEST LIGHT on the matter and if they question it ask them to write to the WT Service Department for clarification -- and that you want to know specifically if the WT attorney was telling the truth, or not!
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  November 2019 Watchtower (Would love to hear the comments in the hall)

  by pleaseresearch in

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  2. bible

  from the november 2019 watchtower study edition.. how many of you would like to know what the brothers and sisters would respond to this question.

  also, if you went into a hall how would you like to respond to the question.. 8. how should we respond to lies?.

  8 satan, “the father of the lie,” uses those under his control to spread lies about jehovah and about our brothers and sisters.

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  DesirousOfChange

  I'd reply: What i find interesting is that is exactly how the Catholic Church originally replied to all the accusations of sexual abuse!
  
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  What can a therapist really do?

  by Thetruthhurts in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  hi all, i've not read the forums for awhile as i've been trying to move on with my life but i'm back and posting for the first time feeling like i cant get a grip.

  so i'm wondering for those of you that have seen a therapist and say that it truly helps, what can be accomplished?

  i'm just really skeptical, but starting to feel desperate.

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  DesirousOfChange

  As mentioned, if you have not read Steven Hassan's book, Combating Cult Mind Control, ORDER IT NOW.
  
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  "Do you believe that the 'faithful slave' is God's channel of communication?"

  by The Fall Guy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if a jw had the nerve to ask me this question, i'd say to them, "you go first.

  using only scriptural proof, show me why you believe that the wtbts/ccojw is god's choice and i'll tell you if i agree with your scriptural reasoning.".

  wait for the silence and the rabbit in the headlights moment.. i searched on the wt cd rom for references of "channel of communication.".

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  DesirousOfChange

  I only see that question as relevant if it is two Elders asking you to "go on the record". In that case, if you are a "Fader", you damn well better say: "HELL YES! Who else would we go to?"

  You might also add, "I'm offended you would even ask such a question!"