Posts by DesirousOfChange

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Cofty -- I have the greatest respect for you! You are a champion among men in your patience and sincerity (and knowledge on this subject). Every longtime member here is well aware that you are able to "chew up and spit out" any ignorant new member like [what's his name] here. [Can't bother to look back.] Yet you are always respectful.

This is like challenging a JW on one of their "Bible based" doctrines. Once it's obvious that you have the upper hand and they cannot defend their belief, they resort to "you're ugly and fat" rebuttals.

JW's that come here to preach fail to realize that it's the intelligent people who left the JW's that settled here and any JW will be over-matched.

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How old were you when you left the borg?

by Iamallcool in

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me-23 years old.

DesirousOfChange

I am thrilled to read that so many left much earlier in life than I did.

Once again, I see that I am a "slow learner".

It was a VERY SLOW process for me. I guess I just really wanted to believe it all. I didn't want to admit I had been so gullible and totally deceived. I stepped down over issues that disturbed me 10 years ago, but I still believed most of it even just 10 years ago. But I joined here 9 years ago so I guess that's when I decided I could "risk" actually signing on to this bunch of (lovely) mentally diseased apostates. Still, I associated as a PIMO for another 4 or 5 years. At this point, I don't think anyone thinks we are JW's. At the best, they might think we are "stumbled". So I'd say that I "left at 59" because I don't want to admit that I waited until I was 60.

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My ExElder Best Friend Has Coronavirus

by minimus in

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this has been a horrible month.

my best friend’s wife just called to tell me that my friend had to be hospitalized due to severe coronavirus complications.

he has severe pneumonia, is put on a ventilator and is in a coma .

DesirousOfChange

My friend is still in a coma.

Min, it's likely an induced coma as that is standard procedure when a person is intubated. So that isn't an indication that his condition is worse.

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Wandering which church to try next

by Talkie in

https://youtu.be/dzywddm5ucc.

DesirousOfChange

One thing that the JW's got right:

"[All] religion is a snare and a racket!"

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Theory of Wuhan virus being created in a viral lab now being considered

by JimmyYoung in

i thought it was a strange coincidence that there was a weapons lab right near the supposed wet market where it started.

china needs to pay for this one way or the other.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/state-department-cables-coronavirus-origin-chinese-lab-bats.

DesirousOfChange

Do we care whether they were deliberate or careless?

Yes. IF deliberate, that's a real problem vs a careless mistake (though with catastrophic consequences). Deliberate would be an act of war IMO.

Of course, a guns and bullet war with China vs The West would be even worse than the virus.

You've got to wonder if an "economic" war would accelerate to worse things if it meant bringing China "to their knees" financially.

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Theory of Wuhan virus being created in a viral lab now being considered

by JimmyYoung in

i thought it was a strange coincidence that there was a weapons lab right near the supposed wet market where it started.

china needs to pay for this one way or the other.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/state-department-cables-coronavirus-origin-chinese-lab-bats.

DesirousOfChange

A couple of weeks ago one of the Networks (prob Fox) interviewed a scientist who said thorough examination of the virus had been performed and it was CLEARLY NOT LAB CREATED.

Now we have other experts saying otherwise.

I guess it was as CLEAR as everything the WT says is so certain.

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Do you have any evidence that the GB had bad intent?

by AlainAlam in

do you have any evidence that the gb had bad intent?

as opposed to blind faith/cognitive dissonance and honest mistakes.. i'm inclined to think they have the best of intentions and are just wrong (primarily because the bible is wrong), but i'm willing to consider the evidence otherwise..

DesirousOfChange

"What about the overlapping generations nonsense? Do you think the GB themselves believe this is really what Jesus was talking about?"

I think this was a Bandaid fix. It was quite obvious to everyone that THE 1914 Generation was dead. They had milked that for years. Someone "of age" in 1914. Someone old enough to recall 1914. And, finally anyone born before 1914. But by 2010 they were damn near all dead and still no Armageddon in sight. So they had to "fix" it.

Someone pulled this "overlapping" thing out of their ass and when they had no better explanation they all (or at least 2/3 of them) jumped on board hoping the Big A would come right away and solve the dilemma. But that didn't happen, so...........the BS continues. Several of them will die (much to their relief, since they really think they're going to heaven) and get them off the hook of having to conjure up another "fix". More Koolaid please.

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I am agreeing with Trump on the need to Nationalize issues that affect the entire nation.

by RubaDub in

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i'm generally not a trump fan but i do agree that things that affect the entire country should be handled in a centralized manner.

trump is stating that he will dictate when the states can open up again.

many governors, dems and reps, are fighting that saying that they have the power, not the president.

DesirousOfChange

Trump has the power of the "purse strings" of the Federal Government. The Feds are dumping TRILLION$ into the economy right now to prevent this "recession" from going to "depression". If a Governor wants their State to receive generous Federal funding, they had better kiss Trump's ~~ring~~ ass.

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MANUAL!--2020-04 SFL.

by Atlantis in

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2020-04-addendum letter.. https://docdro.id/n0hm6tg.

2020-04 shepherd the flock of god elder manual.

https://docdro.id/llechtz.

DesirousOfChange

Isn't it easy to see what they consider important:

Their "all important' Field Ministry is in Chapter 23.

Shepherding (title of the book) Members of the Cong is in Chapter 25.

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New scrolls

by The Searcher in

in 1985 a new phrase was added to our vocabulary, "new scrolls", complete with an explanation as to how they will benefit those who inhabit the new world.

the following five references are the only quotations of this new 'teaching', but incredibly, these two words have been indelibly stamped on most people's minds by repetition from platform speakers, and in general conversation.. w85 6/15 p. 18 par.

21 "during this thousand-year judgment period, jehovah evidently will give additional instructions, unknown to us at present, as new "scrolls" are opened.

DesirousOfChange

Evidently "NEW SCROLLS" is the current buzzword in WT Land about the current pestilence and the nearness of the Great Tribulation. I guess new BS is going to be coming down from the GB?

Anyone else hearing this?