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  Prophesy from a JW (and others perspective). What purpose is there in trying to interpretate some of the stuff that you don't understand??

  by RubaDub in

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  2. beliefs

  this is not a jw-bashing thing, but it always seemed odd to me that the "excuse" when things go wrong is that "we have to wait and see how the prophesy is fulfilled" or some other wording.. my question has always been, then what is the purpose of the prophesy if you don't understand it until after the fact?

  isn't that like having a weather forecast but being told that we don't really know what the weather will be until the next day?.

  i'm sure some of the intelligent people here can guide me but in all honesty, i never understood that..

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  LOVE your question, Rub!

  I've heard it explained that we really only understand a prophecy AFTER it's fulfillment. WTF?

  What happened to that thing about God doing nothing without "giving advance notice to His servants, the prophets"?

  Yet, "His Servants, the prophets" (aka GB?) don't seem to know Jack Schmitt about any of the prophesies and they especially don't seem to know WHY NONE OF THEM HAVE BEEN FULFILLED as was promised by their predecessors (ie, Freddie, The Judge, etc).

  2 Peter 3:4-- "They will say, 'Where is this 'coming' he promised? Ever since our ancestors died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation.' "

  Aren't there a lot of JW's whispering that very question?
  
  
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  Do You Believe Polls Saying Trump Will Lose To Biden?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  a new fox poll says biden is up by 12 percentage points.

  of course, most other polls say trump will be trounced this time around.. do you think the polls might be right this time?

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  The Bible says Trump will win. Daniel 2 says the feet is iron mixed with clay. The Iron is Trump, his administration and his supporters and the clay are the Democrats and those against Trump. It must continue for 4 more years to continue the prophesy unless the end comes on 11/3.

  Let's hope you radical Bible thumpers get this one right!
  
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  Do You Believe Polls Saying Trump Will Lose To Biden?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a new fox poll says biden is up by 12 percentage points.

  of course, most other polls say trump will be trounced this time around.. do you think the polls might be right this time?

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  DesirousOfChange

  How many here think that the people who voted Republican last time will do so again this election ?

  Anyone that's worried about the balance of the SCOTUS and the threat to the 2nd Amendment.
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  Do You Believe Polls Saying Trump Will Lose To Biden?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
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  a new fox poll says biden is up by 12 percentage points.

  of course, most other polls say trump will be trounced this time around.. do you think the polls might be right this time?

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  Some people like the approach of Easy Listening music (Biden), giving a massage and offering you warm face towels.

  But Biden would probably be offering the massages to young girls.
  
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  Do You Believe Polls Saying Trump Will Lose To Biden?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a new fox poll says biden is up by 12 percentage points.

  of course, most other polls say trump will be trounced this time around.. do you think the polls might be right this time?

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  DesirousOfChange

  sir82, if you are correct, then the JW's might well be right -- "The End is near!" I was never a "Trumper", although I was an ABC (Anybody But Clinton) voter. But I cannot see why anyone would dare want to risk going back to the Obama/Biden economy. And I seriously doubt that things would be that good with the things that Biden (or his puppet masters) are now proposing.
  

  And when "American sneezes, the World catches a cold." Thus, it would be a shit storm for the World economy, too.

  sir82, how can you really support a candidate who literally has trouble putting two or three sentences together to convey anything meaningful? He can't even keep his place using a teleprompter. Additionally, not only is the man dealing with failing cognitive ability, but clearly, the "Huntergate" scandal proves the man is corrupt. He's been creepy with women (even little girls). I'm assuming it must be "a lesser of two evils" decision, and you see Trump as "really" evil. Inquiring minds want to know --

  I worry for the future that my grandchildren will inherit from us.
  
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  Do You Believe Polls Saying Trump Will Lose To Biden?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
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  a new fox poll says biden is up by 12 percentage points.

  of course, most other polls say trump will be trounced this time around.. do you think the polls might be right this time?

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  DesirousOfChange

  Can't explain why it posted twice.

  I can't delete one of the charts.

  Perhaps I should post it one more time "just for emphasis"?
  
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  Do You Believe Polls Saying Trump Will Lose To Biden?

  by minimus in

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  a new fox poll says biden is up by 12 percentage points.

  of course, most other polls say trump will be trounced this time around.. do you think the polls might be right this time?

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  These were the final poll results prior to the 2016 election:
  

  
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  ExJW Protest News Report

  by Anna Marina in

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  this is a news report from march 2017 but it's still as relevant today as it was then.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8koav8xzck.

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  Even though I can only understand the English subtitles, tho persons interviewed appeared to be extremely fluent and articulate, as well as dressed appropriately for making a statement to the media. I hope this gets broad coverage there and would love to see similar interviews here.

  (Of course, we in the US are too caught up in BLM riots -- I mean peaceful protests.)
  
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  Tips on a successful stumble

  by Fadeaway1962 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hi i don't mean tie my shoe laces together,.

  i realize some theocatic warfare involved (lying) getting fed up with trying to fade .. how do jw family members react?.

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  DesirousOfChange

  Our extended JW families sympathize with happened to our family. They realize the Eldubs handled things grossly wrong. Of course, they say Joe Hoover ultimately will settle it all and make all things right. We tell them that we are confident of that also, but if "these kind of things" are going on Borganizationally, there are some real issues that need addressed. Clearly Holy Spirit is not at the wheel or the Chariot. So we are "waiting on Joe Hoover" to make it right. But quite frankly, we are NOT going to "wait in the Kingdumb Hall". Better things to do.

  Thus, if you have a reasonable excuse to "be stumbled", it may be the best solution to start your "fade".

  Good luck!
  
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  Did you enjoy some of these back then?

  by Mandrake in

  1. social
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  i was bored to death this sunday, and suddenly i remembered that it could be worse if having to attend the public meeting on a sunday, even worse, not being assigned to the sound department, accomodating, being the mic guy, or reading the wt at the platform... then i realized that i hated just "attending" and sitting at meetings, those "privileges" were the only thing i enjoyed and made my last months inside bearable.... did you enjoy these assignments?

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  DesirousOfChange

  Back when I was a "true Believer", I truly believed (see how I did that?) that I was doing Joe Hoover's Will and "serving" His People and putting Kingdom interests first.

  My wife even then always complained that I erred in putting our family in SECOND PLACE. (I was just trying to earn us all everlasting life!)

  

  I'm just a "slow learner".