Posts by DesirousOfChange

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Disfellowship

by justice34 in

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i'm dealing right now with veru extreme situations that most of us have been in this sect.. i've talk to the elders because i was smoking cigarettes and i stopped for a couple of weeks.

the reason i did that because mamy things are going on right now in my life.

i'm out, i don't attend meetings i don't want to do anything with them anymore but i live in a small community so i want to go out without giving attention to anybody.. the reason i told them what i'm doing because my wife is still one of them and other people learn of some other things i have been doing and i had to tell something for obvious reasons.. the elsers tho the haven't answer to me back in 2 weeks almost and today one of them called me to give me some information.

DesirousOfChange

It would appear English is a 2nd language, so I'm wondering if you are conveying things accurately.

If you mean that you smoked tobacco for ONLY two weeks (vs you said you STOPPED for two weeks), you might have a chance. Claim depression from stress.

However, if what you originally wrote is correct -- that is you have been smoking for months or years and you just stopped 2 weeks ago after being "found out", then you are fucked. But, you might be able to be reinstated if you kiss ass for about 6 months and convince them it was a stress related slip back.

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Circuit Overseer's visit and Body of Elders

by bola in

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who is more powerful out of the co and the body of elders?

i remembered a time i was a reg.

pioneer and my service overseer in my congo was asking one of the regular pioneers during the meeting with the co. how powerful is the co to the body of elders and how powerful is the body of elders to the co?

DesirousOfChange

It's rare but once in awhile you get a "I'm the new sheriff in town" CO. That comes in makes sure the elders know he's the boss!~ NowWhat

Usually if a BOE doesn't agree with what the CO is saying they usually just nod their heads in agreement and pretend to go along with it knowing that he'll be gone in 3 years (or less).

Although I do remember one CO who came through and when all the Circuit Heavies just kind of ignored him, he went through the Circuit and replaced every Big Dog position in the circuit with someone who was not part of the Old Boys Club. One of the Old Boys that I knew was complaining 10 years later that they still hadn't "fixed" what this CO had "screwed up".

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CO retirement severance?

by road to nowhere in

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a friend says the wt gives a substantial sum to retiring cos. he says one bought land and built near him, a desirable rural area.

i think it must have been saved green handshake money or inherited.. btw this man also thinks the gb are the smartest men alive..

DesirousOfChange

I had a good friend who served in the traveling work, Don Wallace, for 40 years and he had to leave because of turning 70 years old. He told me that he gets $600 a month from the Branch. However, he saved all his money from the "green handshakes" and bought a house in cash. ~ James Jack

That's an interesting story you share. How can you explain a guy who is serving the Cult in that high of position whom is supposedly believing and definitely espousing (to others) the concept that The End is "immanent" -- any day now -- but is storing up a shit-ton of CA$H? It seems obvious that he never really believed it. He was devising his "Plan B" all along -- just in case nothing happened. Clearly no real faith in Joe Hoover's promise!

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Body of Elders Leadership

by bola in

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who has more power in the body of elders in watchtower.

is it the cboe, secretary, service overseer or who?

i am just wondering since in my congo there seems to be cowards among them..

DesirousOfChange

And, drearyweather made a good point about those with money. It's like the story of Fiddler on the Roof --

When you're rich ... they think you really know! - Tevye Fiddler on the Roof | Meme Generator

(From "If I Were A Rich Man")

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Peace and Security and Mike Flynn

by SouthCentral in

i was on a jw page recently and some dubs were openly predicting the end of the world in a year.

mike flynn (trump advisor) mentioned having one religion in america and the dubs went crazy.

someone even mentioned 1975 on the thread.. it seems to have since been deleted; but there were about 50 comments before i couldn't find it again.

DesirousOfChange

I was on a JW page recently and some dubs were openly predicting the end of the world in a year.

REALLY? JW's predicting the end of the world in just a year? IMAGINE THAT!

GET REAL DUDE! JW's have been predicting that for over 100 years and have been wrong the entire time.

Jehovah's Witnesses Cult

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What changes are on the way?

by insearchoftruth in

i was listening to the co talk to my wife’s congregation on sunday and pretty much the complete talk was justifying doctrinal and organizational changes and pretty much preparing the ‘rank and file’ for upcoming changes.

anyone on hear have any insight of what ‘new light’ is coming in the future?.

DesirousOfChange

How about taking this 607/587 argument to some other string and quit with that goat herder fable bullshit here?

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Body of Elders Leadership

by bola in

jw
friends

who has more power in the body of elders in watchtower.

is it the cboe, secretary, service overseer or who?

i am just wondering since in my congo there seems to be cowards among them..

DesirousOfChange

The most Alpha Male elder is who runs the show.

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The Flip Side to WT Scientist denies evolution articles.

by Slidin Fast in

https://eu.tennessean.com/story/news/health/2021/10/26/meet-acclaimed-doctor-whose-parents-tried-block-her-college/5831248001/.

her parents tried to stop her from going to college; now, she's a world-class oncologist.

great story..

DesirousOfChange

Can't read the story as it is only available if you subscribe to the publication.

You might want to copy/paste it.

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“A Better World Is Near.”

by Rattigan350 in

"the campaign will feature the distribution of a special edition of the watchtower magazine containing the cover series “a better world is near.”".

"more than 36 million printed copies of the magazine will be distributed in some 230 languages to communities in 240 lands around the globe.

in addition, the digital publication is available on various platforms in nearly 400 languages.".

DesirousOfChange

Guess that's why my mother sent one in the mail to me.

Poor pathetic piece of tripe that it is.

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God punishing organization

by asp59 in

if you are a jw you think god is punishing watchtower?

after watchtower got banned in russia and buildings seized, lot's jws said russia would be punished.

org kept losing in court with child abuse cases.

DesirousOfChange

Isn't it obvious?

When the WT won dozens of cases before the US Supreme Court following WWII, it was an indication of Joe Hoover's blessing. So what is it when WTS is now losing (or being forced into settlements) on dozens of court cases around the world, including many, many for their failure to adjust policies on dealing with those who sexually abuse children? Couldn't Joe Hoover have foreseen this coming? Couldn't he have divinely directed his bOrganiztion leaders to head this off before the $HIT hit the fan?

If the favorable court cases in the 1940's and 1950's were indicative of divine blessing, what else can all of these losses indicate but that WTS/JW's have lost God's blessing and He is using the Nations to discipline them?