DesirousOfChange

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  Do Jehovah's Witnesses shun non-believers and those who leave the faith?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  graeme hammond writes:.

  in his 2002 book that examined the behaviour and practices of jehovah’s witnesses, english sociologist andrew holden devoted an entire chapter to the trauma and friction experienced by those who choose to leave the jehovah’s witness religion.

  “those who do eventually break free,” he concluded, “are seldom allowed a dignified exit.”.

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  DesirousOfChange

  The greatest revenge is living a happy & successful life!
  
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  No rational reasoning with cult elders

  by UnshackleTheChains in

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  https://youtu.be/elm5y8t3pjs.

  this is why i can't in good conscience go back to the organisation.

  you are pressured to bring others into the cult and then for them to wake up and find they are caught in a web of rules and policies such as shunning.

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  DesirousOfChange

  Bumbling fools who cannot even lie well, or merely "unlettered men"?

  What happened to: ---------- Deut 18;18 ~ I will raise up for them from the midst of their brothers a prophet like you, and I will put my words in his mouth, and he will speak to them all that I command him.[NWT]

  It surely does not appear that Joe Hoover is putting any kind of articulate words in their mouths.
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  God of WT - a kindly killer?

  by Smiles in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this wt doctrine includes the wrathful mass execution of individual children, babies and disabled belonging to the billions of non-jws... extremist?

  "during the war of armageddon, jehovah will execute people, not in a cold, clinical manner, but in a “great rage.” (read ezekiel 38:18.

  ) he will direct the explosive force of his anger, not against one army or one nation, but against countless individuals living across the globe.

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  DesirousOfChange

  You are all forgetting that no person (offspring of Adam and Eve) deserves to live. Any life you/we have is only due to Joe Hoover's undeserved kindness. So if you are not willing to conform your life and to live by his "righteous principles", then he is justified in snuffing you out.

  It's kinda like the principleof the 800-pound gorilla.
  
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  Love one another intensely...avoid partiality

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the watchtower—study edition | march 2020. study article 13. love one another intensely.

  if we have intense “love for the whole association of brothers,” we will avoid being partial.

  7 jesus urged us to keep treating others the way we want to be treated.

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  DesirousOfChange

  Every Cong has those people (like the old guy in the photo) or families that fall through the cracks. Seems like they ended up in our car group on many Saturday mornings as everyone else had "prior plans" or were "working as a family" (which I think translates to just going home).
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  What have you learn being on this site?

  by asp59 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i have learn a lot about the religion and congregations.

  when i was active visiting meetings, i was there for the spiritual food.

  i actually thought everyone else was there for same reason ;-) i have learn there's a great variation among jws.

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  DesirousOfChange

  That most of the intelligent JW’s are now ex-JW’s and getting together here vs at the Kingdumb Hall.
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  Are you new PIMO? (Physically In/Mentally Out)

  by Iamallcool in

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  2. friends

  what is your story?

  we would love to “hear” from you!

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  DesirousOfChange

  He said, " I understand you folks have been missing quite a few meetings lately and we wanted to see if we could encourage you in any way".

  When I was asked that question, I simply replied: "I don't know who your sources are but you are quite wrong. We have not missed any of the meetings!"
  
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  Are you new PIMO? (Physically In/Mentally Out)

  by Iamallcool in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what is your story?

  we would love to “hear” from you!

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  DesirousOfChange

  Seems the Borg is getting on families to harass former members,,,,gone for many years to ''Are you coming back to Org.,blah, blah, blah''

  I too have been wondering if there has been encouragement from the Borg to contact former/inactive members because we just had a phone call from a elder that I had served with for years before fading. He is the ONLY JW that has kept some limited contact through the 6-7 years we have faded but up until this week he has never steered the conversation to "are you watching (Zoom) meetings anywhere?" In the past it's just been friendly conversation.

  We also received a letter signed by two elders to encourage us to "attend" the Zoom memorial service last year.

  Seem like every few years the pendulum swings back to the "let's contact all the inactive Dubs and encourage them to return [to Joe Hoover]".
  
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  Why it takes a long time to bring a religious cult down.

  by pistolpete in

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  i think the first thing to consider is that it takes a while for humans to wake up to the truth.

  this is not just a jw thing.

  around 1600 ad, galileo challenged the catholic church's long held view that the earth was the center of our universe.

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  DesirousOfChange

  Maybe somehow God will work it all out---they hope.

  Or..........hopefully they (GB) are right about the resurrection and they will be brought back to life in Paradise without knowing they had been dead for (who knows how many) years. And if not, well........they're just dead and none of it will matter.

  "Even if none of it is true, it's still the best way of life!" (™)

  The greatest revenge is living a happy and successful life!
  
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  Dimwits running the show

  by punkofnice in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i often found that there were some real dimwits that thought they were marvellous.

  a sort of dunning kruger spectrum going on.. donkeys leading princes.

  just like our corrupt and retarded politicians.

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  DesirousOfChange

  The Peter Principle -- Our Government in action!

  (Great reading)
  
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  AM III speech at anual meeting 2021

  by Gorb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just downloaded and watched the am iii speech about expetations about the end.. all i think it is ment to temper the high expetations that the rank and file have build up because of the pandemic.. most jw think that the big end will come now.. gb must be anticipating the anti climax that will come.. it is a very rare speech, i can say, and am iii was in a realistic mood, the audience was laughing and he was thinking "you are idiots", so it seems to me.. g..

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  DesirousOfChange

  So When he told his kids the end may not come until 2020. He didn't believe the WT doctrine, "this (1914) generation will by know means pass away"? ~ NowWhat

  As you probably know, they make this shit up as they go. Doubtful any of his experience is true. It just makes a good story for his talk.