DesirousOfChange

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  Can Jehovah's Witnesses explain the overlapping generation?

  by pistolpete in

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  i found this interesting topic on the current views among jws regarding the overlapping generation.. the posts are hilarious.

  how do most jehovah's witnesses explain the overlapping generation?.

  i've asked a couple of jws to explain the overlapping generation and they directed me to the website jw------org.. either they don't know, or they do know but don't want to discuss it because they know it's bogus and embarrassing.. either way, surely they must know that this just extended the last days another 80 years from the time fred franz died.

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  We don't have many regular conversations anymore with JW's, but the few we do with JW family and an occasional "bump in" don't seem to concentrate on the "generation" aspect, bur rather just the NEARNESS. Any day now. Very, very soon. And isn't that evident by all the fulfillment of the signs ? Wars. Pestilence. (That's a biggie right now.) etc.

  Consider too that once a JW gets up there is age where their life is sealed -- that is, no longer any chance of making much of the change in the course they are on -- they have to believe it is near or else admit they will die.
  
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  Happy New Year

  by HappyDad in

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  wishing all of you a happy and prosperous new year.

  my wish is for everyone to find happiness.

  for those of you who are still having to keep up appearances (pimo's) because of family who are still in, my wish for you is anything that will open the eyes of your family members and finally be set free.. tonight here in minnesota, happydad will be celebrating with a bloody mary, right here at home in my sweats.

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  No rational reasoning with cult elders

  by UnshackleTheChains in

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  https://youtu.be/elm5y8t3pjs.

  this is why i can't in good conscience go back to the organisation.

  you are pressured to bring others into the cult and then for them to wake up and find they are caught in a web of rules and policies such as shunning.

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  The real question is "If you are a professed Christian will you obey Jesus and show love or obey Paul and shun?"

  Shunning is an act of love. Love of God and his principles. Love of "neighbor" as you are trying to readjust their thinking and save their everlasting life.

  Ya can't make this shit up!
  
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  So many are waking up. Pandemic gave jws time to think.

  by pistolpete in

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  this is not about stats, but "actual experiences" happening world wide in the organization.

  there is about 156 comments of what some jws are seeing in their congregation.

  feel free to read and come to your own conclusion on whether the watchtower organization is turning pimo but no one says anything in order to keep family relations.

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  DesirousOfChange

  Almost two years without Kingdom hall meetings, conventions, and field service.

  It gives JWs some time to reflect.

  I also think that the isolation/lockdowns have given people a lot of time on their hands and much of it has been spent sitting at a computer. When they tire of Netflix and look for something interesting on Google it's easy to have some "anti-JW" pop up with all the JW things of interest they might be searching for.

  It only takes one domino.

  
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  So many are waking up. Pandemic gave jws time to think.

  by pistolpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is not about stats, but "actual experiences" happening world wide in the organization.

  there is about 156 comments of what some jws are seeing in their congregation.

  feel free to read and come to your own conclusion on whether the watchtower organization is turning pimo but no one says anything in order to keep family relations.

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  Thanks for that link, Pete.

  Very revealing!
  
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  Will Amazon be delivering today?

  by Iamallcool in

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  i got different answers on google!

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  Of course.
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  Do Jehovah's Witnesses shun non-believers and those who leave the faith?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  2. beliefs

  graeme hammond writes:.

  in his 2002 book that examined the behaviour and practices of jehovah’s witnesses, english sociologist andrew holden devoted an entire chapter to the trauma and friction experienced by those who choose to leave the jehovah’s witness religion.

  “those who do eventually break free,” he concluded, “are seldom allowed a dignified exit.”.

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  The greatest revenge is living a happy & successful life!
  
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  No rational reasoning with cult elders

  by UnshackleTheChains in

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  https://youtu.be/elm5y8t3pjs.

  this is why i can't in good conscience go back to the organisation.

  you are pressured to bring others into the cult and then for them to wake up and find they are caught in a web of rules and policies such as shunning.

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  Bumbling fools who cannot even lie well, or merely "unlettered men"?

  What happened to: ---------- Deut 18;18 ~ I will raise up for them from the midst of their brothers a prophet like you, and I will put my words in his mouth, and he will speak to them all that I command him.[NWT]

  It surely does not appear that Joe Hoover is putting any kind of articulate words in their mouths.
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  God of WT - a kindly killer?

  by Smiles in

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  2. beliefs

  this wt doctrine includes the wrathful mass execution of individual children, babies and disabled belonging to the billions of non-jws... extremist?

  "during the war of armageddon, jehovah will execute people, not in a cold, clinical manner, but in a “great rage.” (read ezekiel 38:18.

  ) he will direct the explosive force of his anger, not against one army or one nation, but against countless individuals living across the globe.

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  You are all forgetting that no person (offspring of Adam and Eve) deserves to live. Any life you/we have is only due to Joe Hoover's undeserved kindness. So if you are not willing to conform your life and to live by his "righteous principles", then he is justified in snuffing you out.

  It's kinda like the principleof the 800-pound gorilla.
  
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  Love one another intensely...avoid partiality

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  2. bible

  the watchtower—study edition | march 2020. study article 13. love one another intensely.

  if we have intense “love for the whole association of brothers,” we will avoid being partial.

  7 jesus urged us to keep treating others the way we want to be treated.

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  DesirousOfChange

  Every Cong has those people (like the old guy in the photo) or families that fall through the cracks. Seems like they ended up in our car group on many Saturday mornings as everyone else had "prior plans" or were "working as a family" (which I think translates to just going home).