DesirousOfChange

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  Where do we go from here, the Lloyd-gate?

  by raymond frantz in

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  the problem is where do we go from here?

  lloyd is not going to go away , he has too much to loose(money) neither will his followers go as we have seen the last few days there was hardly a drop to his membership .so what's next?

  we will be branded in the same colours and because of him we won't be taken seriously anymore.

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  I don't understand why this man was such a big deal in the first place. ~ Pete
  

  Most JW's do not join the ranks because the JW Doctrine had appeal to them. Most JW's do not even know nor or able to explain or defend JW Doctrine. They have been accustomed to having all the "research" on doctrine done for them by the GB/WTS.

  It's when one of those JW's has someone poke a finger right in their eyeball that they begin to wake up to the "lack of love". HEY! Somebody poked me in the eyeball! That ain't nice!

  Then they rush to Google to find some backup for the fact that they don't feel loved anymore. Well, wasn't THAT easy!!!! In the Top 10 one is sure to find Lloyd espousing his views of why WT is bad and hates you and reminds you that WT just poked their finger right into your eyeball.

  Then Lloyd gives them what they are accustomed to getting -- spoon fed. They don't have to do any work. They don't have to actually research anything personally. GB/WTS BAD! They even poke people in eyeball!

  And that's the Big Deal.
  
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  Turning up The Insanity To 11

  by FedUpJW in

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  2. bible

  so a jw elder acquaintance sent me an email "encouraging" me to return to the organization, including this little nugget of a quote from today's wt session,*** w21 november p. 23 par.

  11 how strong will your faith be?

  ***learn to trust those whom jehovah and jesus trust.

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  A two-word response to this elder comes to mind: Prove it! How can that elder prove the Governing Body are trusted by Jehovah and Jesus.

  Do ya recall when JW's winning of Court Cases (49 of 50) following WWII was "evidence" of Joe Hoover's blessing? So what does it now mean when the JW/GB are getting their asses handed to them repeatedly in all the CSA lawsuits? It's costing them (I mean, their contributors) MILLION$ and MILLION$!

  Should they not be prostrating themselves in ashes and sackcloth beseeching why it is Joe Hoover has abandoned them?
  
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  Enforced shunning violates free moral agency

  by Yomama in

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  what do you think?.

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  Where I think Government can get involved is when the Cult demands the shunning of family members. This results in breaking up family networks and has a detrimental effect on Society. A family network is a positive for our society. When Cults wreck this family arrangement often the outcast members become a burden on Society.
  
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  Blip! The radar has blipped. I'm on it. 'chat' booked in for Sunday.......

  by Captain Blithering in

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  2. friends

  a young, progressive, kind elder wants to have a chat with me on sunday after the meeting.

  we've talked before and been quite open about the judgemental attitudes 'we' have as witnesses, and he was completely in agreement, stating that he's never understood the beard thing among other issues, and wants to see the society moving forward by change..

  i've no doubt he just wants to encourage me to up my hours or reach out again, but it's nerve wracking, as i know i'll say something i'll regret.

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  Four years later Mrs Blithering woke up, and she and the captain sailed away into the sunset, undf'd and with family intact. The nice investigating elder is also out, with his family, having realized it's a crock too.

  Everyone loves a Happy Ending!

  The greatest revenge is living a happy & successful life!
  
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  Hines v. Watchtower

  by DNCall in

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  2. scandals

  the governing body's response to the above complaint has been extended by stipulation until february 11, 2022. it had been due today.

  this should be an important case as it alleges csa at bethel with governing body members' knowing about it.

  you can follow it here..

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  I see a BIG settlement with a gag order.
  
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  ... and three kings he will humiliate...Georgia, Moldova, Ukraine

  by scotoma in

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  why ukraine, georgia and moldova should choose the eu ...www.forbes.com/.../why-ukraine-georgia-and-moldova-should-ch...forbe.

  oct 13, 2014 - by vasil jaiani - despite the risk, ukraine, georgia and moldova are still ...russia has been fiercely opposing integration of the former soviet ...russia's punitive trade policy measures towards ukraine ...www.ceps.eu/.../russias-punitive-trade-policy-measures-towards-ukraine.... sep 25, 2014 - russia's punitive trade policy measures towards ukraine, moldova and georgia.if you don't have adobe reader, you can download it here.eu signs pacts with ukraine, georgia and moldova - bbc.comwww.bbc.com/.../world-europe-280526...british broadcasting corporation.

  jun 27, 2014 - ukraine, georgia and moldova have signed partnership agreements with theeuropean union, in a move strongly opposed by russia.

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  A New LOW for Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  https://youtu.be/eufngqq77tu.

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  JW's now have to sell the religion via emotional coercion vs scriptural discussions on doctrine.

  Probably the same people that leave a tract on the table for their "tip".
  
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  2022-01-16--COVID-19 Test Kits!

  by Atlantis in

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  2. friends

  2022-01-16 covid test kits.

  click image to make it larger.. .

  https://postimg.cc/f1fddpry.

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  McFree v. Watchtower!

  by Atlantis in

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  mcfree v. watchtower.

  a us federal judge has ruled against watch tower pennsylvania, denying their dmca subpoena to identify the creator of the jehovah's witness parody videos known as "dubtown.. .

  see last page (page 20).

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  DesirousOfChange

  Does McFree need financial help to offset his legal fees?

  He found pro bono representation.

  If you're feeling charitable, that foundation (or whatever) deserves a contribution.
  
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  Electronic Frontier Foundation v Watch Tower Society

  by Corney in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  [disclaimer: the headline is slightly misleading since the eff itself doesn't participate in the case, so read more below].

  it's not a secret that during the last two years watchtower obtained nearly 40 dmca subpoenas requiring google, facebook, instagram, twitter, soundcloud, scribd, reddit and other isps to provide personal information of users that allegedly infringed the society's copyright.. since subpoena proceeding is ex parte, almost all the requests were granted.. but one of the affected users contacted, on advice of youtube's legal team, the electronic frontier foundation (eff), and the foundation found a law firm ready to represent him pro bono, namely garvey schubert barer:.

  youtube's legal department emailed the user on or about july 10, 2018, five days before the subpoena's return date, stating that it would comply with the subpoena unless it received a file-stamped motion to quash "or other type of formal objection before july 20, 2018.

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  Did my best to stumble through 20 pages of legalese there and I'll be damned -- it looks like the Court got the decision right! Congrats Kevin!

  What a huge kick in the balls to WT. They lost what must be a very expensive legal case to a freaking Lego Man!